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Hello all you godless heathens! Nice to find such a community of free thinkers. Could we start our own country based on Science and Reason? I think the rest of the world being run by religion would never allow it to happen, though.

Aussie64 5 July 7
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I think reason has to gain purchase within existing societies, not wasted in an attempt to create utopian societies. Reason needs to be an organic, collaborative, group process, not imposed top-down.

I also have enough faith in reason that I think it will inexorably win out over various forms of denialism and magical thinking, including religion.

It has been steady gaining ground over the past couple hundred years and while I can't predict the setbacks and regressions along the way, I think irrational ideologies are inherently unsustainable in that face of rational ones.

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You find the land, I will move there & volunteer my time!

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Please consider broadening identification of overseers. Theologians aren't the only self-appointed masters of our little earthly universe. Science, reason, history and successful outcomes are as threatening to propagators of false, failed political ideologies as they are to those deluded by religious bunco artists. Individual examination of their sacred dogma or questioning/criticism of their holy sees brings retaliation that is just as lethal. Religion runs part of the world and whores itself to the part of the world run by counterfeit secularity.

Finding pure secularity and government based entirely on reason and lessons of history isn't ours to be enjoyed. It has yet to be earned. Should our kind not destroy itself first, it won't likely happen before centuries into the future; before we're viewed as so many ancestors yoked by intellectual slavery.

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The US was supposed to be that way, but recently the fascist religious wing nuts have taken power. Hopefully, the Millennials will help vote the GOP out of power next election.

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Hmmm....mmmm,,,,a dictatorship of the rational? Hmmm....mmmm.....

How do you get dictatorship from that? 🙂

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