If we disbelieve in something, does that not mean that we actually believe in its existence as a concept by the very fact that we are taking a position in relationship to it. Therefore, what aspect of the idea do we disbelieve in, as we clearly believe it has some form of existence?
The imaginary representation of something is not the same as that thing. When a person disbeliefs in something, it means they do not belief that thing to be real, not that they do not belief it can be conceived.
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                                        Only because it has an existence in a thought world. It still has a dynamic externally, for example us speaking of things that don't exist
Atheists have no basis to form any belief at all about gods. We decline to afford belief to the unsubstantiatable.
Even if we actively disbelieved, that would hopefully be based on a preponderance of evidence against the hypothesis.
Do you believe that the moon is made of cheese? No? Does that mean you secretly must believe it is? Your proposition (at least as I understand it) is incoherent.
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                                        Unicorns...believe or disbelieve? Therefore demolishing your entire premise.......
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                                        At some level they exist as ideas therefore, by reason that they are discussed they have existence if only that they do not exist in a physical or tangible form. Does it mean that ideas don't exist until they are tangible?
@Geoffrey51 ummmm...not quite catching what you are trying to say here, you seem to be contradicting yourself in one sentence....?
Muddled thinking. Atheists do not believe a god exists, therefore that ends all other arguments. You can’t take any position on a non existent entity.
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