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With mother's funeral to attend Friday, the hardest part will be to avoid disagreeing with all the religious fanatics.
Dog give me strength!

KevinAverett 7 July 25
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Finally, I truly no longer attend funerals of any sort. Just do not believe in that. First embalming is so foolish and degrading to mother nature, SEcondly, death is not sorrow , merely a function of life. Some say I should attend to show respect, That is not true, I should go just to be nice. No one cares and those who know me, understand me. Sitting in a room with the embalmed corpse is an old custom before we had the ability to make a ton of money on it

EMC2 Level 8 July 25, 2018
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If you can imagine some of the comments you will hear, perhaps you can think of some responses in advance, to avoid being confrontational, yet hold your ground.

For example if someone says she's in heaven or a better place, you could reply that yes, you've created a little piece of heaven in your heart, to keep memories of her, and you'll think of her when you see the people and things she loved. You can rephrase what they say to be more in keeping with your thoughts on death.

No one is truly gone until they are forgotten. Grief is a personal thing and everyone handles it differently, but it is important and healthy to grieve fully in your own way. Don't let anyone take that away from you. But also remember not to take it away from others who may need to grieve differently than you.

My sentiments exactly.
However, they will likely make the effort AGAIN...to convert me.

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Yeah, that's a tough situation, but it does no good to make waves at a funeral.

tioteo Level 8 July 25, 2018
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I'm sorry for the loss of your mother. The last thing that you need to deal with at that point are all the "she's in a better place" type of comments. Take some time for yourself.

True.

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Stay focused on your mother as a person, on the family stories around that. Say whatever genuinely nice and fond things you have to say, and couch them in ways that give credit and honor where it's due: to your mother. In short: reminisce. About your mother, not your mother's chosen deity or beliefs. If there was good in her, it was there in spite of religion rather than because of it.

Of course others will try to make it all about god, and you just have to let that be as it is.

Exactly!

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My condolences on your loss. Maybe now you can move forward and won't have to see the relatives so much.

Still taking care of Dad.
He is also 90.
I do what I can.

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My condolences on your loss. I hope you have fond memories to help you through your grief.

When the religious people say unfortunate things, think of us and remember that they are trying to cope with grief, too.

I have been the caregiver for 3 1/2 years.
I've only had help from dad.
Of course, they will ALL shed tears and exclaim how they "miss her".

@KevinAverett That makes it harder. Your mother was lucky to have you. I'm sure you made the last few years of her life better. {{hug}}

If the others get too annoying, just close your eyes and imagine us descending on them like a swarm of angry bees.

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Wishing you stamina! Was your mother religious? If you plan to speak about her at the service (I hope you do), maybe consider what you want to say beforehand. When my mother died, I spoke at her service, and it was cathartic. And honest. Just don't let the Religionistas keep YOU from fully benefitting from an event that is certainly more for your benefit than most of them who will be there.

I refused to speak.
I'll only help carry the casket.
My family is ALL Mormon, and some fanatical.

@KevinAverett Wow. That Mormon fact puts a distinct stamp on the situation, what with chance of community ostracism, etc. I had already openly rejected my parent's Pentecostal faith by the time Mom died, and at least two of my sibs were right on the same page with me, so that made a big difference.

@MikeInBatonRouge
There are a FEW "closet agnostics".
They "play along" with the religitards.
I am the only open atheist.
I was ostracized long ago.

Funny....I am the only one that VOLUNTEERED to taje care of my folks.
I've put my entire life on hold for their benefit.
When I am called "Christlike".... I reply that
"NO...I'M NOT. There is PROOF of MY "existence"."

@KevinAverett funny to be called Christlike, as a compliment. I don't mind it, because the Christ character fabricated by the gospels (you know they were totally made up stories, 2 generations after Jesus' death) at least they are mostly loving, positive messages, unlike the rest of the New Testament that is so horribly judgmental. So I don't mind being called "Christ-like," but I always feel compelled to point out the vast majority of Christians being completely Unlike Christ, total hypocrites that they are. In short, "Christian" and "Christ-like" are two entirely different things.

I must admit I rather admire aspects of Mormon value system--healthy living, being responsible, genuinely seeking to help others and be loving. It is way more positive than the hateful, hypocritical fire and brimstone judgmentalism of devout Evangelicals that I grew up surrounded by. Of course as a gay man, I can't even begin to stomach the sexuality-based condemnations of either group. ...not to mention that their myths are just crazy.

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