Why are agnostics still on the fence about Jesus?... I'm pretty sure you're still not on the fence about Zeus or the 2000+ other gods.I went thru that phase too until finally I got over the fear of possibly going to hell for not believing in the sky bully now I'm finally free and no longer fear the imaginary magic man.
On the fence about Jesus? The man or the myth? Though I am on the fence about whether or not there was a historical Jesus, the biblical Jesus Christ is about as real as Harry Potter.
I consider myself agnostic in the same way I consider myself human. I will not argue the possible existence of a god but I am 100% certain all the gods we have stories of were all created by man rather than the other way.
Agnosticism and atheism are not necessarily mutually exclusive. Many people use the word agnostic to express what they know/don't know, and atheist to express what they believe/don't believe.
Agnostic atheist (me): I don't actually know if any god exists, but I don't believe any god exists.
Agnostic theist: I don't actually know if any god exists, but I DO believe a god exists.
Gnostic atheist: I absolutely know that no god exists, so I don't believe in a god.
Gnostic theist: I absolutely know a god DOES exist, so I believe in it.
On the fence about his existence or whether he was the son of God? Sure I believe he existed, and I also believe he was somewhat of a rebel with beliefs that strayed from common Jewish indoctrination. He was a threat to the high priests, so they saw to it that he was removed. Check out the link. It offers a great explanation of the "Virgin Mary" and Jesus. [womeninthebible.net]
The real Jesus was gay. For years , the religious have been saying , " Amen", when what Jesus really said was, " Ahh....Men ! " ????
I have gone through the same transformation. It took years to undo the indoctrination of Christianity and the belief we are all born sinners and the ideal of hell if we don’t follow the scriptures of the Bible. I am finally free!
I assume it has much too do with the trust that people have in their parents.
Become gods ourselves. What else is there?
Never believed anything about the religious 'Jesus' but I assumed there was a historical Jewish 'teacher' (Rabbi) who we know almost nothing about except his name was Joshua or however it's said in Aramaic (translated to Jesus in Greek)
It's possible but it's also possible that Jesus is just a made up character based on other pagan myths. I guess we will never really know.
Yes Danger. There is a possibility that the Jesus character is based on some pagan myth. In particular , the Mithra legend. This is most likely the origin of the miraculous birth narratives Also, there was a character in what is now known as Turkey named Apollonis of Tyna who lived approximately 100 years before Joshua the Nazarene who performed similar 'miracles' ect. Like Joshua , he was also the 'proverbial good man.