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The latest mass shooting in Jacksonville, Fl, was a terrible event. All reasonable people are horrified at it, as we have been horrified at all the mass shootings over the time period of our adult life (regardless if it is just few years or a great number of years).

People discuss and argue what can be done to prevent these senseless killings.

My take on it is this, nothing at this point in time can be done. The reason why is that violence is ingrained in to our culture. The nation was founded on violence, forged by violence and have used violence to resolve major issues in our culture. We have violent movies, violent sports, violent songs, violent politics, violent protests. The mass shootings are "chickens coming home to roost" in our violent culture. They will only stop at that point in time, when our culture decides to stop the glorification of violence. I am sad to say we are a long ways off from doing that. Until we seriously embrace the non-glorification of violence in our culture, these shootings will just continue.

creative51 8 Aug 26
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I agree that we need a culture shift, b/c gun legislation isn't going to do it. We share nearly 2000 mile border with Mexico where guns are legal, and huge coastal areas on the east and west coast. Prohibition in the 1920s just empowered criminals and gave rise to the mafia. The War On Drugs in the 1980s just gave mid/south american cartels vast amounts of money and power. A prohibition on guns won't help much IMHO. From what I can tell, most of the proposed gun legislation wouldn't have made a difference in most of these shootings anyway.

We have a serious mental health problem in the USA. People are depressed, suicidal, violent, tribal, and alone. We praise individuality and the entrepreneur, yet have millions with full time jobs that live below the poverty level b/c businesses can't pay a livable wage. We have a government mandated education-camp system that is falling behind the rest of industrialized nations, and is nothing more than a place for kids to get bullied (a.k.a, prision-lite). But hey, we have the biggest military in the world so we can maintain $2 gas! Go America!!!!

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There's a Twitter account that tracks mass shootings worldwide, can't remember the handle unfortunately. But someone retweeted their latest chart incorporating the Jacksonville shooting. It list zillions of countries, most with 0 mass shootings, a few with one, and the US is down at the bottom with > 200 of them, and that's just this calendar year. "Nice job, NRA!" is the title of that post.

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Generally speaking I agree - limiting gun ownership on its own won't do it, though taking guns out of the hands of unsuitable (mentally ill) people or severely limiting ownership of semi/auto rifles and large magazines would make a small impact in the longterm. You just have a culture there that normalises violence and strong-arm tactics. You have TV series and movies that constantly build up the hero to be an uncompromising person who shoots first and asks questions later ... someone who just gets things done without thinking of the consequences ... someone who isn't afraid to "break eggs to make a cake".

Countries like Canada and Switzerland have a lot of guns but they don't have the culture that supports violence OR they have a different style of gun ownership. Switzerland is always held up by gun supporters as a proof that you can have low crime and high gun ownership but the facts are that most rifles are owned by the country's well-trained militia / army reserve, not by your average Joe Public.gn the bar down and tighten up semi-autos

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