Arguments for Morality?
I don't see karma, balance, order, or divine interventions. I see horrific things done and the culprits getting praised. If any god wants this, then I'd reject them on the BASIS of morality. To claim morality is God's domain, when the universe has no morality, is just delusional.
"If there is no God, then murder isn't wrong."
-Dennis Prager, Mental Gymnastics Semifinalist.
So the many who kill in the name of God are wrong? Why are they doing it then? The Inquisition, the Crusades, Terrorism, Holy Wars, the Holocaust... Millions dead by men doing God's work and for God. So if there is no God, then would these men have CAUSE to kill?
Where is the supposed morals in these scriptures?
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Feel free to reply to any comment by clicking the "Reply" button.When arguing about "morality" with a theists, clarify morality as things that please their god. I usually resort to their "moral" god being OK with slavery and human sacrifice of Zephtra who killed and burned his daughter because he made a deal with God because their god of morality gets off on the smell of burning flesh. Yes, Killing and burning your daughter is moral because it pleases god.
NoMagicCookie
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Sep 5, 2018
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I see "Divine Morality" as only existing in the minds of the deceived. If something is wrong, then it's wrong. If god says sacrificing children is good, then god is bad. Then, even if you could prove to me that this god exists, I still wouldn't care.
Just like I don't kiss the butt of politicians who act like scumbags. The difference is that scumbag politicians are a proven fact.
Morality was neither invented by, nor nurtured by religion. Religion simply appropriates it.
Morality is an emergent property of society. It is the product of the implicit and explicit negotiations of everyone concerning the kind of society they want to have and what sustains or undermines those goals. It is, ideally, driven by empathy and has the objective of a civil, stable, peaceful society.
Theism actually undermines morality by using god's alleged commands as justification for random actions -- untethered from the actual effects of those actions.
mordant
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Sep 5, 2018
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I have no morality but I do have scruples, it works for me.
Surfpirate
Level 9
Sep 5, 2018
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You nailed it. Even when I found some acceptance of god, i believed he or she or it could have no power to interfere because if that god did have the power to cure sick kids and didn't, then that god would be a bastard beyond any f'ing sicko one could imagine.
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