@CrazyQuilter Complete avoidance of the facts:
"Previous studies suggested that the percentage of corn acres treated with insecticides decreased during the 2000s, but once we took seed treatments into account we found the opposite pattern," said Margaret Douglas, graduate student in entomology. "Our results show that application of neonicotinoids to seed of corn and soybeans has driven a major surge in the U.S. cropland treated with insecticides since the mid-2000s." [sciencedaily.com]

@CrazyQuilter "The failure of GMO proponents to consider insecticidal seed treatments when claiming reductions in chemical insecticide use from GM crops was previously highlighted by the authors of GMO Myths and Truths, as well as by Dr Doug Gurian-Sherman. Gurian-Sherman said, “In reality, corn engineered to kill certain insect pests – AKA Bt corn – has mainly resulted in the replacement of one group of chemical insecticides with another.” The new study proves the point with hard data."

@CrazyQuilter
[organicconsumers.org]

"Organic consumers"..
takes one look.. nope. Likely not a lot of hard science there..

@hippydog The study, was done by Penn State

@CrazyQuilter "Neonicotinoid use increased rapidly between 2003 and 2011 because that's when it became available, and word spread that it works well. It doesn't have anything to do with GMO's and it would have happened without them"

The use of GMOs around the world became so prevalent that the environment is saturated with it. Weeds, and other pests developed resistances to them which lead to the use of Neonicotinoids and other agents. I think that this is what that study is trying to emphasize, also my understanding is that the toxicity of Neonicotinoids inheres in plants for years.

@CrazyQuilter It makes good sense, I read it, and I will forward paper as soon as I find it. I am not a shilll like yiou.

@CrazyQuilter [enveurope.springeropen.com]

@cava "I am not a shilll like yiou"

And he goes full crazy.. lol

@CrazyQuilter The problem has to do with resistance to GMO pesticides, not that they are the same.

@CrazyQuilter" The widespread adoption of genetically engineered (GE) crops has clearly led to changes in pesticide use, but the nature and extent of these impacts remain open questions. We study this issue with a unique, large, and representative sample of plot-level choices made by U.S. maize and soybean farmers from 1998 to 2011. On average, adopters of GE glyphosate-tolerant (GT) soybeans used 28% (0.30 kg/ha) more herbicide than nonadopters, adopters of GT maize used 1.2% (0.03 kg/ha) less herbicide than nonadopters, and adopters of GE insect-resistant (IR) maize used 11.2% (0.013 kg/ha) less insecticide than nonadopters. When pesticides are weighted by the environmental impact quotient, however, we find that (relative to nonadopters) GE adopters used about the same amount of soybean herbicides, 9.8% less of maize herbicides, and 10.4% less of maize insecticides. In addition, the results indicate that the difference in pesticide use between GE and non-GE adopters has changed significantly over time. For both soybean and maize, GT adopters used increasingly more herbicides relative to nonadopters, whereas adopters of IR maize used increasingly less insecticides. The estimated pattern of change in herbicide use over time is consistent with the emergence of glyphosate weed resistance."
[advances.sciencemag.org]

@CrazyQuilter I think you need to re-read them more carefully, however the point is that the poisons that GMO added into the environment are near the limits of their viability due to natural resistance, which caused farmers to go introduce new poisons with increased toxicity .

Don't you like bumblebees?

@CrazyQuilter Not talking about GMO based poisons, rather neonicotinoids, and I could wallpaper this page with articles about how they are affecting the bee population. Remember the causal chain.