The problem with freedom is that when you give it to people they use it to do anything they bloody well want.
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Feel free to reply to any comment by clicking the "Reply" button.freedom isn't something you can give another person, unless you mean quite literally unhandcuffing someone or letting someone out of captivity in your basement. a good deal of freedom is internal.
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genessa
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Oct 7, 2018
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I believe a number of systems of government throughout the majority of history would strongly disagree.
A free country is a pretty new idea.
@LenHazell53 yeah maybe we'll pick up on it some day. but you know, it doesn't have to be a basement....
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This was a quote my father used to use a lot especially when drunk and pretending he had been old enough to be able to have fought in the last war, "For our generations freedom"
LenHazell53
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Oct 6, 2018
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There is a difference between liberty and license. For example, you do not have the freedom to yell "Fire!" in a crowded theater.
Heraclitus
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Oct 6, 2018
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I always find that example a bit silly.
One may yell anything anywhere if no negative intent is involved.
I have been in crowded cinema's watching "Wrath of Khan" when dozens of people of joined in with Kirk, yelling "Fire!" as the Enterprise attacks.
This day and age a cry of fire, not accompanied by an alarm going off will probably only result in people shouting STFU in response.
Personally I use Incitement to crime or riot as the example of a limit on free speech since by necessity inferred negative intent is can be implied.
@LenHazell53
Well, the example, which BTW pre-dates fire alarms, is meant to imply a negative intent to incite panic and the resultant consequences, not shouting a homophone while participating in a Trek movie. But, what about death threats? The point being that virtually all societies and their laws recognize a difference between liberty and license, or freedom and the abuse of freedom.
@Heraclitus thanks for that, and I did mention exceptions such as Incitement to crime or riot
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