@johnprytz If they are all just illusions none of them are the real personality. All are unreal. IMO the true self is pure consciousness. I say that we share that true self because our separate selves as identified with the bodies are illusions.

@johnprytz The only thing that makes sense to me is that conscious awareness is primary in the ultimate reality beyond our sensory world. While each of us seems unique and separate because of different memories and bodies, those things are ephemeral. The body/brain is creating the dream for each person, but “We” are not really that person IMO. Universal consciousness is observing all those dreams and interacting with the various organisms. It has its reason for doing so.

Our true essence is consciousness itself, and we are that in common. When my body dies the person that I think of as myself will disappear forever, but it is of no concern because I was never the body to begin with, as it seemed. The body was nothing but a robot.

You and I being the very same entity might seem a bit crowded at this point. Do we know each other well enough for that kind of union?

It’s all just glimmers and wisps of ideas.

@johnprytz It’s not that I am removed from universal consciousness at death. It’s that I never was a body to begin with. We were not born and we will not die.

When I think of myself I might think of my body, my memories, my thoughts, my emotions, etc., but none of those things are worth a damn without conscious awareness. Universal consciousness enjoys interacting with the river of organisms but the life of a single organism is of little concern.

Suppose that river of organisms suddenly went dry because of some cataclysmic event. In a trillion years perhaps life would begin anew. From a cosmic perspective that trillion years would have zipped by in the blink of an eye—in no time at all in fact. Consciousness creates the sense of time.

@johnprytz You keep referring to “you” as if I had existence as a separate entity. “i” simply don’t exist except as a bodily illusion. It’s like those multiple personalities we discussed earlier.

Universal Consciousness is not housed in bodies. Universal Consciousness observes and interacts with the river of organisms, all simultaneously. Just as a robot or a body can operate on its own without conscious oversight for a while, so can the world of bodies collectively, but without some sort of intelligent input eventually there’s trouble. If I am drunk or otherwise unfit for receiving intelligent input I’m liable to wind up in jail or even dead.

As an analogy, back to the driverless car. Ostensibly the car might be set up to go get its own fuel and maintenance. It’s a “burden” only to the car itself, and that’s not much of a burden since the car has no awareness. If there’s some sort of snafu such as a conflict in scheduling, or a malfunction in hardware that wasn’t foreseen by programmers, then Universal Consciousness comes to rescue the human/car team, overriding automatic processes and setting things aright.

So far as the burden humans feel in having to get their food, etc, I think there’s a reason for that feeling. It’s because of limited energy and resources. We are programmed to use economy—apportion our efforts among various goals. If we are feeling a burden, maybe it’s because we’re about to exhaust our energy and need to make changes. Maybe such feelings make up receptive to input from UC.

Why do “We” (Universal Consciousness) want all these robots in the first place. I don’t know but it sure spices things up. I know I sound like I know all about this stuff, but really it’s just some metaphysical speculation that fascinates me. At heart I am abysmally ignorant and bewildered.

@johnprytz that’s an absurd question. In twenty five five years of practice.. not once.