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I play two online games, neither of them a facebook game. one is based on france and one... i'm not sure since it seems to be based all over the place, including but not limited to russia, ukraine, israel and the united states. they're good games and in the french one, which i've been playing for seven years and four days, i have made some friends. not all of them are folks i would have any chance of meeting outside of the game, nor to whom i would necessarily be drawn (or who would be drawn to me) if we met, say, in a supermarket, but we have become friends, not just acquaintances, but friends who share personal experiences and care for one another, nonetheless.

thus i have a friend who is an evangelical christian and a trump supporter.

she is a kind person, concerned about me personally, not by any means stupid, but this morning i found memes, posted by her, from the "walk away" campaign on my facebook page. this is a campaign to convince democrats that lots of democrats are walking away from liberality in disgust and becoming trump supporters. it's not true, but what do we expect from a campaign created by trumpkins? my friend isn't lying. she believes this is true and she is sharing it in good faith. she's wrong, of course. it's bogus. i don't think i could even BEGIN to convince her of that, and she probably wouldn't want to discuss it anyway.

she's never tried to convert me to christianity (i wasn't christian to start with) and we don't talk politics. we talk about our lives, our health, the game we play, other stuff, not politics, not religion. she doesn't post much on facebook but wow, this one thing... it's pretty bad. i had to hide it on my page.

it just makes me so sad.

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genessa 8 Oct 29
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Every lie contains a kernel of at least half-truth, and I'm afraid that while Democrats are not walking away from liberalism in disgust, they ARE walking away from so-called centrism, which in practice is elitist and plutocratic and does not truly try to raise up the working class. It is why Clinton was such a spectacularly weak and uninspiring candidate so that Trump could squeak his way into power.

We're having the very devil of a time convincing my 26 year old stepson to vote strategically rather than ideologically. To him, and I suspect to some others, especially the young and idealistic, if it's not a True Progressive like Bernie Sanders he will not vote for them. To his mind, it's corporate Democrats like Clinton who set the very stage for Trump, so fuck them.

This is not without merit in some technical, philosophical sense, but on her worst day Clinton would not have done the violent damage to our crumbling institutions that Trump does just by existing at the top. I held my nose and voted for her, because I recognized the existential threat posed by her opponent. My stepson on the other hand seriously considered voting FOR Trump; that's his version of tactical voting. I'm sure there were lots of people who voted for Trump just to purposely "shake things up", and then ended up blowing it up.

Fortunately he ended up just abstaining and at worst will do so again in the next presidential election. I still have two years to talk sense to him but he's a principled, stubborn little fucker sometimes.

clinton was supremely qualified and won the popular vote by almost three million. that's not a squeaker, not for her, and not for trump, whose "squeak" had other explanations. i don't think most dems are as centrist as we're made out to be. i know i'm not! there are a handful of democratic senators who are, maybe fewer than a handful, really, but the party is not as unprogressive as reputed. clinton isn't even a corporate democrat. yes she was paid to speak on wall street. no, she didn't say what they wanted to hear!

haha stubborn kids. true enough.

but the whole walk away movement IS fake. it's a campaign ploy from republicans, pure and simple, not matter what the internal divisions may be in the democratic party. the repugs are saying that the liberals are tired of being liberal, not that they're tired of not being liberal enough!

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I understand where he's coming from, but I have learned that, politically speaking, sometimes the best you can hope for is to cut your losses. I held my nose and voted for a corporate democrat in '16.

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