He got fired by his native american store manager and black assistant manager

Free speech doesnt protect you from consequences of that speech and free speech shouldn't protect blatant genocidal speech.

If anything it should be criminal threat.

@LadyAlyxandrea I wasn't defending the employee, or criticising the checks to "free speech" that businesses sometimes impose. I was just making the point that sometimes businesses come down harder on that kind of thing for purely (ultimately) financial reasons--and that can be a weirdly, sidewise-kind if beneficial occurrence for folks like us who like to see that kind of thing squashed.

I don't see anything replying to your comment. Hm

@LadyAlyxandrea I keep getting notifications for likes on this post and there aren't new likes on the reply I have. I had been in a bit of a contentious debate with another poster here but he called me triggered then he disappeared to me a and the thread is gone (to me). I think it's still visible to others though. Just wierd.

It's because you commented on his comment. It's nested.

I agree that not everyone who gets a symbol tatted on them are necessarily in that organisation. For instance the swastika used to be a "spiral cross" which stood for peace and prosperity. So you can't just look at it as a sign of bigotry and hatred. Just like when people see a pentacle, and immediately draw a reaction of fear because of "satanic cults"... It's not about the symbol itself; its the person behind the symbol and how they present that symbol.

@Dillon34 There is a big difference between a pentacle and a swastika. The rhetoric of its past uses in hindu iconology does not wash Im afraid. Just as in words, symbols take on new meaning that will be forever associated with that use. For example, if someone was spreading rumours that you were gay (I mean no offence here). It would not be much of a defence in a slander case for them to say "I meant happy".

@273kelvin claiming that I am gay would only be half right. And I'm not trying to compare a pentacle and a swastika, I'm simply stating that just because a majority of people have been brainwashed to believe that these symbols mean something of evil intent, does not mean that they are.

I can understand that but this kid recently drew it on, indicating that is his current standing, blatantly showing it to every customer in the drive thru. If it was a tattoo and he made some attempt to hide it, maybe I'd hear him out but no. This was no better than nazi saluting me as I left

@Dillon34 actually the swastika for peace and love in Buddhist culture is reverse from the swastika. Therefore a swastika is still and always will be, a symbol of genocide and racism

@Dillon34 also it is not brainwashing. It is a FACT that MILLIONS of people were tortured and murdered under that symbol. It is A SYMBOL OF DEATH AND OPPRESSION regardless of what it once was. It isn't fucking brainwashing it is a God damn fact.

You can't erase history to suit your rhetoric and the fact that you think a swastika is okay, or that today it can mean ANYTHING other than fucking nazism, is disgusting. No one in Europe and America will ever see it as anything less than a symbol of genocide.

How dare you even suggest we forget that.

@LadyAlyxandrea I'm not suggesting that we forget anything. I understand the atrocities that were committed under the crimes of the Nazis. I'm not at all saying that the symbol doesn't imply evil actions done in the past and present. I just wanted to say that a symbol is just a symbol. You give it meaning, and you give it power. Do people who wear the swastika support Nazism? Most likely. But is the symbol itself inherently evil? No. I'm not a Nazi sympathizer nor do agree with any of their structures or beliefs. However you can't just say that the swastika itself is Nazism.

@Shelton yep