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Millions is spent on security with techniques like facial recognition etc. Billions are spent on elections yet there always seems to be problems with voting with false ballots etc etc
Has no-one ever thought of combining the two? Should not homeland security resources be used to ensure integral elections?
Be a simple process of scanning voters faces to verify their ID and stop people double voting, ghost or deceased votes etc.
Just a thought.

powder 8 Nov 7
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A major source of difficulty here is that virtually all the digital voting machines are total shit designs from a security standpoint. Recently a 10 year old girl at a hackathon broke into and "owned" one of those machines in a matter of seconds. They're that awful. To the point that election experts say we need to go back to paper ballots for now. Diebold's machines are particularly bad, but none of them are up to snuff.

Facial recognition is not the mature technology some want to claim it is. Famously, early this year, the faces of various public figures were fed to such a database, and mismatched to the records of convicted felons at an alarmingly high rate.

In any case, voter fraud is virtually a non-existent, invented problem. Voter suppression on the other hand is widespread and well-documented. Hacking the vote is, too -- both by foreign governments and by political opponents.

What the US needs before more misbegotten and badly executed tech designed by committee, are a few very simple things:

  1. Automatic nationwide voter registration

  2. Make election day a national holiday.

  3. A requirement to organize and properly fund and staff polling resources so that voting never takes any individual more than 30 minutes. Heads should roll when people have to travel dozens of miles to vote, or stand in line for hours, or be turned away because someone can't get the machines to work or the doors open.

These three simple reforms by themselves will go a long way.

@KissedbySun That is worth discussion to be sure. However ... in part it depends on how it's handled and promoted. And since elections are typically on a Tuesday it doesn't straightforwardly provide an extended weekend. It would remove excuses that voting is a chore and difficult. On the other hand what about special elections. And here in NY there's a subtle voter suppression tactic where multiple elections are held, e.g., separate primary elections this year for national and state level office, and in order to discourage such things, I think there'd have to be laws against multiplying elections.

Another way to accomplish the same thing is to mandate paid voting leave. It's 2 hours in my state. I'd expand that by requiring it to be as long as needed, which would also encourage employers to put pressure on officials to keep the lines short and fast-moving.

Finally, mail-in early voting and easy absentee voting would help a great deal too, particularly if the forms go to everyone automatically.

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Or we could just vote by mail like Oregon does

Remi Level 7 Nov 7, 2018

@powder we've been doing it here for years and haven't had a problem. Seems like it's more secure than machines that change your selections! Not to mention not having the hassle of voter suppression, I mean getting to the voting place. Drop that shit in the mail!

@powder email is hackable. I don't think your ballot can be submitted by anyone else

@powder we have to sign the envelope and the signatures get compared.

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Except that illegal voting has NEVER been a significant problem by ANY stretch of the imagination.

Yup

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You're asking them to be efficient with our taxes? Look at the military as another example. If these politicians wanted our society to work at it's peak for the actual benefit for the people then it could. All they have to do is allocate funds correctly. Fat chance on that though.

They are not capable of allocating funds correctly.

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