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Are Churches anti-choice?

Memories of a Catholic elementary school protest:

By pointing out what I thought was obvious tongue in cheek satirical yet honest observation that the bible defines life beginning at first breath with implied knowledge the bible is it in direct contradiction of the mainstream teachings of most Christian churches, I recently make the mistake of assuming all members on this site were aware current Christian teaching were “Pro-Life” despite their holy book asserting a different position and were intellectually able to accurately assess this as satire.

It occurs to me some on these pages do not share my first hand encounters on this topic with Churchers. In addition to years of driving by multiple “Abortion kills a beating heart!” signs and billboards (often including a graphic and bloody fetus, sponsored by churches), the most annoying church sponsored protest I remember was encountered while driving under a (now abandoned and removed) RR underpass in Devils Lake ND. It looked like the entire think – 6 St. Joseph Catholic School had walked the five blocks from their school to College Drive and was in attendance. They were supervised by roughly six nuns dressed in black nun-ware including black hoods over their heads so each looked a bit like the grim reaper; something out of a cheap horror movie. The dozens of kids filled the bridge and both sides of the road. They held signs and huge banners with lots of red paint and hand painted graphics of gore with dire warnings about abortion is murder, sin, and we can not murder babies because - - Jesus/God - - Their yelling and screaming was also a bit annoying.

Two part question:

What is your perspective of Christian churches on the topic of abortion rights?

Part two: If you have 1st hand encounter a church sponsored anti-choice protests or propaganda, what and where have you observed these? Perhaps the rest of the country is not as backward as ND?

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NoMagicCookie 8 Nov 13
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I was raised in the Episcopal church, which is pro choice.

Thanks and Interesting, I was not aware that denomination had such liberal views on the subject of women's rights. Most churchers in these parts are anti-choice, anti-gay, anti birth control. Via google I found a Episcopal church in town, a tiny church with lovely stained glass windows (glass salvaged (reconstructed) from churches in Europe after the WWII) among the dozens of churches where I live. Over thirty years ago I attended my best freind's father's funeral in that church. About a decade later, the same friend asked me how I knew (that religion was bs?) but that is a different story.

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You're only allowed body autonomy if you're male or dead.
No one's going to force you to donate blood or organs in life or death, but F.U. if you spread your legs or are raped you're having that baby. Because Jayzus.

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I can't believe you asked this question. In my 20's I wore a NARAL button:

Keep Your Rosaries
Off My Ovaries

Now at 65, I'm driving around with the bumper sticker:

Keep Your Theology
Off My Biology

Women are still fighting religious zealots for control over our own bodies.

Religious groups official positions on abortion

[pewforum.org]

This is the response I anticipated from rational and intelligent folk like yourself but all members of this site do not form a homogeneous mixture of rational and intelligent folk.

Thanks for the link. I was surprised to find the Presbyterian Church only "disproves abortion as a means of birth control or as a method of convenience"

As for "Unitarian Universalist Association of Congregations" supporting a woman's right, I would hardly call them a Church.

At this response time time over 16% of those who responded selected "Some churches promote. . . " I would have voted "Churches promote. . ."

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reform judaism isn't anti-abortion. i don't know about conservative judaism. orthodox, which represents a teeny tiny minority of judaism, might, but not under all circumstances. i have never been christian but my observation is that christianity's objections are awfully unscientific and not particularly honest.

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I know it's a bit off topic, but - Reform Judaism? I find it strange when religions reform. "We feel like the original tenants from our diety are terrible, so we're just gonna do what we agree is acceptable for society today." How is that different from the origins of secularism... why are they still clinging onto the religion at all? I wonder if women are still treated as second-class citizens apart from abortion - "you can have more control over your reproductive powers, but you're still just a woman -don't you forget!" Vexing to say the least.

@Return2Sender no, that's just what it's called. it's not even especially new anymore. i am sorry to say i am way too tired to explain reform judaism in detail and explaining it briefly may leave you with an incorrect impression, but i'll just say it is a less literal reading of the bible. that's certainly not all it is, but if you don't know what it is, all i can say is don't be vexed. if you find out and you're still vexed, go for it, but i think you're being vexed by a false impression, not your fault, but relax. it's not anything like what you said.

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Churches don't like abortion because it means less money in the collection plate in 20 years.

I figured the same - - - also why the Catholics church is against contraception.

@NoMagicCookie exactly.

Don't forget they are also markets for pedophilia - sad to say.

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