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"You have to love yourself before you love someone else"... discuss 🤔

MattCooper 5 Nov 19
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I think it's best to love yourself before entering into a love relationship, so you know you are worthy of their love, and if they mistreat you, you will be able to just move on, without believing you deserve the mistreatment. Any healthy love relationship must start with good self esteem or self love, otherwise it's unbalanced, in my opinion.

You surely can love someone else, without loving yourself first, but that is not ideal, in my experience.

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Well... You don't "have to" do anything, really.

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A grain of truth.....if you are very unsatisfied with the way things are in your life, it is unfair to bring in another person. Another person should not have the burden of carrying your unhappiness. It is better to be emotionally stable and in a good happy place before adding someone else into the mix.

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Coffee Talk

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Maybe the most overused, meaningless platitude of all.

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The only people I have known who love themselves have been narcissistic as hell. To like yourself or accept yourself makes more sense to me. I don't love myself, yet I have no problem loving others.

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I am so sick of seeing that. It's a slap in the face to people with depression.

Right? Like I feel like I’ll never truly love myself. So I’m fucked and can never have a healthy relationship. That makes me feel super great.

@Marcie1974 Hang in there Marcie... You deserve love and a relationship in your future.

@TomMcGiverin thanks, having a really rough few weeks

@Marcie1974 Having a hard time myself. Posted on here yesterday about having been stood up for the second time in a row that I had plans to meet someone from a dating site-different women a couple months apart-and I ended up getting trolled by a few asshole guys on here after everyone else was helpful, supportive or sympathetic. So, I can relate Marcie. Some folks like to kick you when you're down instead of acting like a decent human being. I had to delete the thread. It's hard to accept that even on here some people will be abusive bullies.

@TomMcGiverin I understand, sorry you’ve experienced that here. I detest being stood up. If you aren’t comfortable saying you changed your mind then make up some emergency but at least let me know!!!

@Marcie1974 I'd prefer the truth over a made-up lame excuse because at that point the interaction is obviously going to end, at least on my part, so why care about sparing my feelings on why they don't want to date me? I don't give second chances to someone who does that and they don't really care about me or my feelings at that point, so the only thing they have to lose then by being honest is their own delusion and appearance about being a decent, "nice" person. Which I suppose is precious to them and their false self-image.

@TomMcGiverin as someone who is curvy, my weight can be an issue for some guys. I’d much rather have them lie and spare my feelings than tell me they aren’t attracted to me because I’m fat.

But I’m admittedly sensitive so...

@Marcie1974 We'd have to agree to disagree on that, but I'd still rather have the truth. I'm sure with some women, for example, the fact that I'm bald is probably a dealbreaker for them even tho they might not want to
admit it. In fact probably half the women my age don't want a bald man. But I'd rather hear that truth from them than some BS instead about how they're rejecting me for being a non-drinker or not religious enough for them. If it's because of looks, I'd rather know.....because it would give me a better idea of where I rate on the looks scale and which level of looks in women are out of my reach. So that way I'm not setting my sights too high most of the time.

@TomMcGiverin you have way thicker skin than I do, good for you.

PS some of us think bald or grey is very sexy

@Marcie1974 I really doubt that I have thicker skin than you or most people.

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