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The word spirituality is so connected to religion faith myth and superstition. But there r the non believers the non religious and even atheists agnostics humanists who sometimes say they r non religious but spiritual. The word itself seems to be connected to spirit. Should atheists own this word and give it a deep and impacting meaning that resonates or should atheists just dump it?

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Spiritual refers to the mind... To be spiritual is to be mindful... I'm spiritual concerning nature

Cutiebeauty Level 8 Dec 7, 2018
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The problem is that there is no real common definition of it used, so it's really a worthless term in the religious sense.

Mattimuss Level 3 Dec 7, 2018
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I think their attiude toward spirit is misplaced. I can understand the term spirit not as an entity or agent of anything, but in the way it is used in the term Zeitgeist, translated Spirit of the Age. Approaching it observationally and not so much anything that engages us, but rather our take on phenomena and how we engage with events, corporeal and psychic, disregarding the preternatural, and our relationship to it, we can take up that type of definition. Pirsig writes about quality in Zen and the Art of Motorcycle Maintenance, and I found it compelling stuff that helped bring me to my conclusion.

Pour a cuppa joe and spark one up. Enjoy.

uuberdude Level 6 Dec 7, 2018
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Ha. There is no book or rules, that is one of the wonderful parts about atheism. If someone thinks they are a spiritual agnostic, I have no problem. I might be curious to know about how the person decided on the label.

alanalorie Level 7 Dec 6, 2018
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The only problem atheists face is not being organized. - Richard Dawkins.

Own the word atheist. About half of the world population is non believer. The other half is spread over many religions. What does that tell you?

Marcel3405 Level 4 Dec 5, 2018
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Unless, and until, I can find a clear and consistent definition of this "spirit" or "spiritual" thing, I am in no position to answer your question.

(I prefer my spirits to come out of a whisky bottle.)

irascible Level 8 Dec 4, 2018
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Dump it. Whatever else it means, it implies "spirit", i.e., something supernatural. It also implies a "soul", something within humans which is not material.

Neither of these concepts is true or useful. If you want to explore human emotion and the nature of personality, then say so. Labeling things as "spiritual" just muddies the waters and perpetuates mythology.

Elganned Level 6 Dec 3, 2018
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i would prefer not to go around redefining things, just as "spiritual" people may redefine god as nature. these words already have meanings. let's not bend them.

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genessa Level 8 Dec 3, 2018
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I think the term has the connotation that a person is interested in exploring subjective human experience, and that those experiences are valuable to us as humans. It provides a corrective to the "Spock" (all logic and no emotion) atheism. As such, I think it is a term that needs to be kept. Not all of us want to be Spock. Some of us want to be Bones.

Orbit Level 5 Dec 3, 2018
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i getcha, but some of us want to be able to understand what the hell other people are talking about without asking if they've redefined a word that already has a meaning or a range of meanings.

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