Agnostic.com

10 4

Just saw two posts on Facebook . One was of another school shooting , the other was of a kid screaming foul language , contempt , and demands at his parent , and refusing to do as he was told (get dressed , go to school) . I strongly feel there is a connection between these two videos . Mass school shootings were unheard of when I was that age . In the 50's , as they were developing criminal profiling , one of the things the serial killers claimed they had in common , was abuse as a child . New laws were developed , to protect children from abuse , but I think the pendulum went too far . Parents are afraid to correct their children in any functional way , and are threatened by the law , if they do . This is the way kids are growing up now - totally self centered , no respect for their caregivers or anyone else , feeling they can force the world to do or give them any and everything they demand , with absolutely no consequences for their unacceptable behavior .

Cast1es 9 Feb 15
Share

Enjoy being online again!

Welcome to the community of good people who base their values on evidence and appreciate civil discourse - the social network you will enjoy.

Create your free account

10 comments

Feel free to reply to any comment by clicking the "Reply" button.

0

I think the science is clear that spanking does more harm than good. But that doesn't mean children don't need guidance and discipline. Sweden outlawed spanking in the 1970's and they set up a hotline for parents needing guidance on what to do when their kids were acting up. I think parents just need more support for how to influence and discipline their kids, especially those of us who didn't grow up with good role models.

Lauxa Level 5 Feb 18, 2018
1

Mass shootings increased largely in the 70s - 80s in the U.S.

0

The first school shooting took place in the XVIII century.

XIX century

During the 19th century there were 28 shootings:

break-down
The first shooting was during the year 1840, later shootings occurred during the years 53, 56, 58, 60, 64, 67 (3 shootings), 68, 71, 72, 73, 74 (2), 78, 79, 81 (2), 82 (2), 83 (2), 84 (3), 87, 89, 90 (2), 91 (2), 92 (2), 93, 94, 98.

I could post the ones during the XX century but you get my point.

0

What i see as changed is the easy availability of assault rifles.

While i respect the right to bear arms... I don't see the need for a civilian to own an assault rifle.

1

I completely agree, well said.

2

We've definitely gone too far the wrong way. l grew up in the 50s, and my head would have exploded if l acted like kids do now. We could be spanked at school. If a neighbor caught us doing something wrong, they could spank us, and whe our parents heard about it, there would likely be another one. The authorities weren't called, everything was dealt with on the spot, and it was over. Kids have nothing expected of them now, few do any chores, and most feel entitled to whatever they want.

2

The kids who scream at their parents aren't the ones who end up shooting up schools. The kids who shoot up schools are quiet and overlooked. Shouty, defiant kids don't get overlooked.

I see your point; I don't think the connection is there. I think its more about alienation than entitlement.

DEFINITELY!!!

The greatest human need outside of survival is to BELONG. To something. To a friend. To a group. To a partner. To a family. To a community. To the world. Too many people feel like they don't belong.

@BlueWave Shouty, defiant kids know how to get their belongingness needs met: they shout and defy for attention--problem solved. It's the kids that keep to themselves that are more in danger of sliding off the edge of belongingness.

What kind of adults do they grow into? @AMGT

@AMGT Absolutely.

@stinkeye_a Yup!

I could, but I just meant to stimulate conversation😉 @AMGT

4

Other changes since the '50s:
Most kids had at least one parent at home.
Parents actually spent time with kids.
Kids could get into fights on occasion without the police getting involved.
I don't think protecting kids from abuse caused this problem, I think it's absent or inattentive parents.

JimG Level 8 Feb 15, 2018

Most the kids I knew had one full time employed parent and one parent working part time . I started first grade in 1950 .

1

Too many Millennials today feel entitled.

[inc.com]

Absolutely. They get out of school and think they should earn $100k/yr. Wow, if only...

@NothinnXpreVails I have started from the bottom up when I was 18. I have been working for 35 years now and I have yet to make $100K a year.

Oh yeah, I’m far from it. @balou

1

I'm sure that's definitely a factor.

Write Comment
You can include a link to this post in your posts and comments by including the text q:24704
Agnostic does not evaluate or guarantee the accuracy of any content. Read full disclaimer.