Instead of voting along the party lines either Democrat or Republican, how about us citizens start voting for the person that is going to do the best job, forget the old ways and create the new ways. Wouldnt it be interesting if on the next election in 2020, a black woman got elected for President,, that would show some of those bigoted people in Washington a lesson or two.
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Feel free to reply to any comment by clicking the "Reply" button.We need, but will not get, four or five viable parties so we have REAL choices. We also need term limits so that 1.) incumbents aren't out campaigning rather than doing the job we pay them to do, and 2.) Corporations, PACs, and billionaires can't reliable expect the same bubbas (men or women, R, D, or I) to always be there and wield power based on how long they have been there. No one should be being celebrated for holding office for 59 years. WTF !
Grayghost
Level 6
Feb 9, 2019
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Varn:
If we had a Parliamentary System … like our ‘founding fathers’ ran as far away from as they could.. we could do multiple parties. As is, we’ve factions within parties, where our ‘Primaries’ attempt to sort and narrow them down. Not pretty, or always that ‘democratic’ … but those who win make the rules, and what incentive do they have to mess with the process or system that got them there 
One party supports a ‘fairness doctrine,’ the other gets rid of it (giving us full-time propaganda from wealthy industrialists). One party is far less aggressive in Gerrymandering, their opposition blatantly abuses it - the bad guys win again, nothing is done. One party knew better than ‘Citizens United’ (basically unlimited political contributions from industrial donors), the other had purposely placed ‘supreme court justices’ to allow it.
Now, for one party to come close to competing … it must beg for donations from many of the same entities it’s opposition is beholding to. If not, it’s impossible for their candidates to compete with everlasting - ever more expensive political campaigns. And, ‘corporate donors’ will contribute to each (though substantially favoring one party), in order to ‘keep the door open’ with a potential winner..
Then along comes Bern…. or a Nader.. from a safe progressive region claiming ‘both parties are corrupt!’ No, the system’s corrupt due to one party. Problem is …..it’s taken decades for this shit to happen, and the US recently shot itself in the head ...and if recovery is even possible ... it may take equally as long.
Term limits.. Watched that happen, then dissolve in Oregon. The same money goes to the same party - with the same results; only the names change..
Revolution? Not yet.. It can happen, when the populous realizes how out of balanced things are, and finally attribute their suffering to the party responsible. But it’s bad out there. I also understand the frustration. Maybe that’s some people’s way of ..leading the charge..? But to where -- and how?
I’m sick of hearing nothing can be done. It can, but progressives are difficult to unite - far too easy to divide, and their ignorant opposition is near impossible to educate.. The party of our opposition has so snowed their targets - they support trump! A party of religious purity - supporting trump! ...because their preferred propaganda sources told them to… And when the entire ‘independent’ news media concludes the obvious - it’s deemed ‘Fake News!’
Crap - even have such an idiot in my family, a cousin (waiting to inherit her dad’s wealth in order to start a church!). My mother attempted to diplomatically explain something to her recently and was cut off with -- “Oh,” “That’s fake news.” So when anything goes wrong, the weaker party is blamed - while the other moves on to it’s next conquest.
I know ..there must be something better i could/ should be doing. Damn, it’s Saturday Night - and I’m here 
...thanks for the rant time, felt your thoughts were worthy of at least my response ~
@Varn No, term limits can't be done. Every republican and democrat wants a piece of the pie (each wants to become at least a millionaire) and a wielder of power and influence. I fear that, with few exceptions, the days of noble men and women entering politics to help their fellow Americans is over -- maybe forever.
Likewise, the two major political parties won't let any other serious challengers in. The reason they play nicely with each other is that, like monopolies, they need each other so that it appears we have choices.
Because, when the close votes happen - party members generally fall in line. And, since there’s become such an obvious difference between the major US parties, is it not beyond obvious which one’s looking out for you?
What Washington needs is cohesive progression, if occasionally interrupted by moderate consideration. As is, it’s all over the place! Industry can’t trust us, international friends can’t trust us, we can’t even trust us (healthcare today - gone tomorrow)… Baby steps forward ..followed by Giant leaps backward are killing us.
Give me the party of progress - and whichever local candidate is willing & capable of delivering it 
Varn
Level 8
Feb 9, 2019
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how about meaning "why," i have a pretty good answer. you see, we have one major political party at the moment, and one criminal organization (i am neither exaggerating nor slurring; i am telling the truth) posing as a political organization. so things work out one of two ways: either the criminal organization retains power, or it loses power and we can start to get the country back together again. if people ignore party lines, vote for their great-uncle's wife's daughter's ex-boyfriend because he seems like a really good guy and you just don't trust politicians anyway, then the republicans keep control, because your great-uncle's bla bla bla isn't going to win, and if he did, he would have no power anyway because you have to have the majority to get much done. if the majority plays fair, the minority can have a say, but if the majority is republican, that just doesn't HAPPEN. they write bills without any democratic input, in secret, and won't let anyone read the bills before they vote! it's insane! also, the purpose of electing a president is not to teach bigots a lesson. it's to take power away from them. so instead of electing a black woman for president to teach someone a lesson, how about electing someone who will get good things DONE (and try to fix the bad stuff that's already been and is still being done), and if that's a black woman, COOL, and if it's someone else, COOL. i'd rather vote on party lines than vote on racial or genderic lines! parties have platforms. races and genders and ages and hair colors and shoe sizes don't.
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genessa
Level 8
Feb 9, 2019
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I have a relative who claims, usually with an air of superiority, that he doesnt vote D or R, but rather for "the best person for the job." Problem is, he has no strong feelings about any of the issues unless they affect him directly and personally. He also has no real understanding of the issues.
He will never need an abortion, and is barely religious, so he doesnt care if Planned Parenthood is defunded or access to safe abortions is limited.
He is not a gun person, and has never been directly affected by gun violence, so that is another non-issue for him.
On and on it goes. He really doesn't care about what's good for our society, and no interest in history. He doesn't experience rascism or sexism, so neither are a problem for him to help solve.
He has no children and never had a major set back in life, so doesn't understand how important programs like food stamps and WIC are. He also buys into the b.s. that it's mostly fraud.
He's still young and healthy and resents being required to buy even basic health insurance.
He's not quite as actively selfish as a Republican, nor as caring about other people as a Democrat, but he would vote for either if he liked what they said in their commercials. That's as deep as his concern goes for determing the best person for the job.
Sorry, you triggered one of my pet peeves.
GinaKay
Level 7
Feb 9, 2019
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Varn:
Wow! That was so accurate a description of my vision of a ‘male swing voter’ ...I’m in awah. Damn - you’d have been one ..heck of a Booth Buddy!
I spent more time than anyone ‘manning the Democrats’ booth in a redneck county.. Often, as good as it got was to be paired up with someone like you.. ‘There goes another one..’ we might say 
They hated Hillary, though. A strong, intelligent, educated and experienced woman poised to shatter her ceiling… One of what you described had actually described to me (assuming I’d appreciate it) that he’d voted for trump ‘to mix things up.’ Then he let slip his vitriolic hatred of Hillary.. Some subjects motivate them.
Well, I’m appreciative to have stumbled onto your pet peeve, thank you for wording it out
I disagree we should vot to simply change faces and gender. I did not vote for Obama because he was black. I voted for him because he was highly intelligent, had an important message and could get the message across in a way that was understandable and defendable, unlike his predecessor.
Unfortunately, too many republicans all support their puppet master and we must not let them remain in control. We also have to look at the Democratic legislators to make sure they have a viable message and are not just wolfs in sheep's clothing.
JackPedigo
Level 9
Feb 9, 2019
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I was with you in the beginning but there at the end you just gave home alone the opening she needed to cut the legs off of your own statement.
So let’s just say that wouldn’t have been most likely that Bernie Sanders would be our president right now if the system that has been built for and fortified by the two parties to prevent someone from fucking up their game.
Hence AOC at this moment she’s openly challenging their system and even black women within her own party have criticized her.
Seriously if you think that race is more important than money when it comes to politics then you’re just a naive as those who believed that trump was gonna make America great again.?
48thRonin
Level 8
Feb 9, 2019
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<--- Lifelong Democrat, environmentalist and volunteer.
10 huge differences between Democrat and Republican party platforms:
LiterateHiker
Level 9
Feb 9, 2019
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Interesting how things change - here’s the Republican Party platform from 1860 - 1 page.
It's unreadable. Too small.
@LiterateHiker
Sorry it was the best I could find quickly:/
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