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Today the unlicensed carry (gun) law was passed. Many years ago I was diagnosed as bipolar and later shortly after getting out of the hospital I was adjudicated as bipolar and committed to an institution for a week where my medications were adjusted. (This is quite common.) I take 4 meds to correct the chemical imbalance in my brain. I have never missed a dosage. I live what I perceive as a normal and happy life. I used to carry (with permit) before the diagnosis but renewal was not an option.

(The second amendment rights are moot so avoid this please.)

  1. Should I be able to conceal and carry?
  2. Am I mentally ill?

Update edit: 2/14 2:00 CST "House Bill 2597 would allow people age 21 or over, veterans and active duty and reserve military members age 18 or over to carry without a permit. The bill prohibits felons, people convicted of domestic violence and *people who have been adjudicated as having a mental illness from carrying a firearm."

Sadly, now I know I am mentally ill and no more worthy of being able to C&C than a murderer. I have never touched anyone else in anger IN MY LIFE. I have had my right to a gun stripped from me through no cause of my own.

Edit 2/14 2:25 CST:

I’m starting from a point where I’ve known what it feels like to be mentally ill and not knowing it to knowing what it must feel like to be normal. In either case, before diagnosis it was normal to be manic and depressed. I’ve been there all my life. So it was normal. I didn’t like it but I didn’t know any better either. So I get diagnosed and I have no fear of being labeled as mentally ill. I will answer anyone’s questions. No one has ever shunned me and in fact they have embraced my openness with it.

Somehow I feel like I am broken and [am] mixed in with felons, spouse abusers and the like.

But if only for a few hours....I have felt what it was like to be like you and have the right to not be feared.

kgoodyear 6 Feb 14
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I cannot diagnose nor should anyone on here attempt to do so.
You should only listen to yourself and a qualified mental health professional.

As far as you or anyone having firearms after being diagnosed well that should be based upon whether or not you’ve been cleared from being a threat to yourself or others.

At least that should be the minimum qualification but I’d feel better if there was a restriction as to what weapons anyone could possess as well as how many.

I mean as long as we’re not banning them all together there should be some legitimate restrictions. But all of this is just my opinion

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When Sandy Hook happened there was a push to have all Autistic people registered (the shooter was allegedly on the spectrum). Some people believe that being Autistic made you violent, therefore the public has a right to know if someone was "dangerous" (like what were they going to do, put a "A" on their clothes). My son is on the spectrum, and the only person he may be dangerous to is himself.

That never happened.

A year or so after that, there was a push to have all mentally ill people banned from owning guns. Again, prevailing opinion from the vocal left was that the all mentally ill people are dangerous and we need to be protected from them. There is a box on the gun form that asks if you have been hospitalized, but what idiot is going to check that box as a yes?

I am mentally ill (Borderline Personality). I am not a threat to anyone. I may be a bit loony, but I do know reality from fantasy, and have been taught how and when to use a gun. I had three legally purchased firearms, but sold one because it didn't have a safety on it (I felt it wasn't safe).

Do I believe all mentally ill people should own guns? Hell no. Like other things, it depends on a lot of factors. Besides, a lot of perfectly sane people own guns that should never touch one.

Sorry, got side-tracked. In answer to your two questions: 1) If your meds keep the crazies away, AND you take your medication faithfully, I personally believe you should be able to conceal carry. 2) If you have been diagnosed bi-polar, you have a mental illness. That's just a fact of life. That doesn't make you a danger, just means you have a brain imbalance.

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tRump overturned the regulation for the very reason you give: not all mental illness is the same...the spectrum runs from people who take anxiety drugs to the really dangerous delusional people...

Yes, the ones who do the mass killings and even the specific domestic killings are mentally ill...but not all mentally ill people kill...the problem is how do we distinguish without a good mental health system in our country? A system that can detect issues before it comes to action?

I see no reason why our drivers' license system is stronger than our gun control system...you can't drive if you are on certain medications but if your health issue is controlled, you can. Yes, maybe a few people will have an epilepsy attack or heart attack even on meds, but the majority don't. We could apply the same thing to gun control...so to answer your questions, you should be able to carry...and yes, you are mentally ill with verifiable controls.

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Thank you for being brave enough to reveal this, take responsibility for your condition & do something about it. With no history of violence or propensity for violence or any indication for violence, we as a society must respect the law which is the Constitution & permit you to carry. Mental illness comes in many forms. You are not hearing voices & obeying their edics if you did. You have taken the rational, adult pursuits in order to stabilize your mental state. You have no history of suicidal attempts or thoughts of acting upon it. You get to carry in my opinion.

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You suffer from mental illness you have said so. Where did unlicensed carry pass? Why do you feel the need to conceal and carry? So many people these days are out there packing after an 8 hour class. I grew up in a hunting and gun family. Personally I never was interested. Perhaps in our lazy society if the conceal and class was five weeks long there would we a lot less gun owners out there that scare the hell out of me.

I never said I was mentally ill but wanted to leave it up to my audience to make that determination on what little evidence I submitted. I question the number of unwarranted death has any correlation to the number of responsible gun owners.

@Veteran229 My close family members are also law enforcement and much of what I know from them involves concerns about the lack of mental health and addiction care. This country stopped caring about funding for that long ago.

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