Here here and I feel the same fear for Cortez right now she’s burning the establishment down and no one can intimidate her so she’s not going to stop until she’s ready to.

And they’re not going to allow her to stop them there’s just too much money involved. But yeah Nader would’ve just exposed everything he would’ve given a list of names addresses and phone #’s as well.

@48thRonin I hope you're right about her, but I used to feel afraid for Obama that some racist, if no one else, was going to shoot him. But after he got elected and started acting like a continuation of Bush's policies, I knew that he was just another sellout who would obey the ruling class and that they would make sure nothing happened to him.....I was proven right. If he had tried to be like Bernie, Nader or Cortez, the shadow govt. would have whacked his ass and set up some racist as a patsy, like with MLK.

@TomMcGiverin Yeah sadly hope turned to nope when it came to Obama. But yeah you’re right they would’ve made history out of him for sure.

And funny you mentioned Bernie. I sell my soul and cut off a testicle just to know what was said to him that day he went to the White House.

Because he walked in with his head high and his briefcase under his arm looking like he was going to set them straight and then when he came out he looked like he had just been audited, gone through a divorce and miss the last bus home.

I mean he looked beaten and defeated ? so like I said I just wanna know that because his energy changed after that day.

@48thRonin I've heard rumors they threatened him and his family. After what happened to Wellstone, that is not an empty threat...After Cheney got pissed with Mel Carnahan of Missouri opposing the Iraq War and then his widow getting elected after Mel's convenient plane crash, the creeps learned their lesson and made sure they took out Wellstone and his wife in another plane crash. They may be ruthless creeps but they learn from their mistakes, at least in how to hurt people.....

@TomMcGiverin Yeah sadly that’s the bitter truth indeed.

@48thRonin Don't you get sick sometimes of ignorant people that accuse you of being nuts for believing that all or most of these deaths were conspiracy hits? I know I do....Most people are idiot sheeple who believe everything and only what the corporate media tell them.

@TomMcGiverin No I actually don’t because the second they have question your own beliefs then they’ll try to shut you down the next time something happens that stinks of being foul.

I simply challenge them to prove me wrong and I’ll admit it has happened once but only once.

@48thRonin Interesting. I have found that I just can't talk to most people about this kind of stuff because it's just too scary to them to think that they really have little to no control of things when it comes to the system no matter what happens with elections and voting at the federal level.

@48thRonin It's very hard for people to first recognize that they live in a feudal plutocracy, then admit that they are so powerless and then finally agree to not react with willful denial of those facts because of how scary that feels. Most people are not strong enough to live with that kind of fear of their govt., but some are. In the former Soviet Union, people were every awake, even if that made life harder. Here, people are weaker and prefer to remain ignorant.

@TomMcGiverin We honestly behave more like Rome back in its hay day. Our military is globally dispatched and we’ve engaged in some form of combat for at least 80% of our countries existence.

So we’re claiming victory even if it’s an enemy that no one can see as well as declaring that we’re defending our country and it’s freedoms by being the aggressor. So as to give our citizens the sense of being safe.

We go even further to keep our citizens appeased through propaganda and entertainment. Our government and it’s financiers recirculate the wealth amongst themselves and their allies.
And if someone should jeopardize this they’re either demonized and/or eliminated.

And if the lesser classes start to show signs waking up or unifying then they’re presented with either new pleasures or given a reason to combat each other.

But like you said to wake up is too painful for most so therefore it’s best that they be content with giving and receiving their proposed share.

I did but your mind just can’t see but it’s ok just back to sleep you’re not ready yet.

@48thRonin You already know that there are differences. I agree with you that both parties care more about their donors than about the American people. But still, to equate those two, to say that there is no difference at all is to reject reality.
But looking at your other comments, you already know that. It is no coincidence that AOC is not running for the rebulicans. It was not a coin-flip decision she made, right?

@Dietl I’m pretty sure that she had no intentions of running as a republican but the Democratic Party is definitely divided between the old guard and the newer progressives.

But the democrats and the republicans on the surface appear to be totally against each other but they’ve both taken the same PAC money and have interfered the election process.

And so I believe that they both just want to keep things the way it was before trump and now these newer progressives. Kind of making it appear that they’re working and fighting each other all awhile not achieving any real forward movement.

That’s why I feel the way I do in regards to them technically being one in the same

@48thRonin I agree with most of what you say. The democrats and the republicans only serve their donors but the key difference is that the democrats pretend to care for the people while the republicans don't bother AND there is the (real) progressive movement from inside the democratic party. Nader wanted people to vote for him so it was only natural that he used this rhetoric but there is a difference in voting for either of the big parties. If you want to have some real big change then sure it doesn't matter which of the two neoliberal parties you vote for but then again voting is not the mechanism to bring about those kinds of changes anyway. All progressive movements started from the bottom up not the other way around. That is what people need to understand the most. Don't look at how the parties can bring about change but how you can bring the parties to change. So, support the real progressives.