I've noticed that Pro-lifers love to invoke the Commandment "thu shalt not kill", taken from the Jewish Torah. However, throughout both the new and the old testament, god commands his followers to stone to death children, women, infidels, and even slaughter whole villages. So, which is it? Doesn't this glaring contradiction prove the folly of religion? I would love to heard a Priest try to justify this. Can you imagine Pat Robertson explaining this one? Also, a transexual was beaten up by a couple of men recently in Dallas. We seem to be entering the dark ages where sanctimonious idiots think it's righteous to attack people who are different than them. Wonder where this mentality comes from? The comments were even more disturbing, with the majority claiming that the trans got want "he" deserved, because, ya know, God created Adam and Eve, not Adam and Steve.
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It’s been estimated that God killed an estimated 30 million people in Old Testament. Obviously do what I say and not as I do
abyers1970
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Apr 14, 2019
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This from the July, 2017 issue of the "Humanist" magazine: "IN THE BEGINNING it was Adam and Eve, not Adam and Steve.” I don’t know if you heard that bad excuse for homophobia growing up, but I did. The problem is that it’s wrong in every possible way. There’s absolutely nothing correct about that statement."[thehumanist.com]
JackPedigo
Level 9
Apr 14, 2019
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I’ve heard my former preacher say that along with if you don’t get saved you’re gonna be a crispy critter. Notice I said former. Don’t know how anyone could joke about Hell if it were real.
@abyers1970 Remember, your former minister and in fact all ministers have a deep conflict of interest in making people believe their crap. To start with money is involved and then control and lots of other things. These people really need another job.
The get out of stoning of course, was that no one individual did the killing, at least in bronze age eyes, the victim just died. It was the ultimate get out of responsibility free card, for the moral coward who wanted their sadistic pleasure without individual guilt.
Fernapple
Level 9
Apr 14, 2019
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What god really meant is “thou shalt not decide to kill but if I tell you to, on the double.” That’s the serious reason they use among themselves. I was always taught that god can decide who to kill no problem, all life belongs to him so he can take it. They teach that not even your own life is yours so suicide is a sin; yet god can make you suffer through life or death at will for as long as he pleases, but any personal agency would be wrong. Why make a bunch of freewheeling motherfuckers and punish them for adhering to their nature, which you gave them? If you wanted automatons make a robot. I didn’t decide to be here but I will damn sure decide what I do with the predicament. Don’t make apes and complain when they don’t behave like machines, and don’t piss on my leg n tell me it’s raining. For the love of a capitalized Genius.
Sorry I was possessed by judge Judy for a moment.
Wurlitzer
Level 8
Apr 14, 2019
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Most of them have no idea of all the bad shit in the Bible. They only know what they are spoon fed by the Church.
Sticks48
Level 9
Apr 14, 2019
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As a former Christian, you are correct. You emphasis Jesus and Golden rule and all good things and only bring out the bad when you trying to straighten people out.
They cherry pick their book and take what they want out of it, then use apologetics to explain something else away. Jesus wasn't going to change "one jot or tittle" of any of it but that was before we had the Internet and could easily find the contradictions. Imagine that you could believe the entire world came from just 2 people, then one of your sons went off into another land to find his wife. Kinda funny, huh? As for the 2 men in Dallas who beat up the transexual, possibly they came from Adam and Steve. At best they are nothing but misinformed egotistical turds!
DenoPenno
Level 9
Apr 14, 2019
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I believe it was Elizabeth Cady Staton who commented on the fact the bible always says what the person wants it to, or something close to that. they pick and chose what they want to believe and will condem you to hell for disagreeing with them. A pox on all of them!
BillF
Level 7
Apr 14, 2019
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And pick and choose something different tommorow if that suits them then, But they have god on their side, so it must be true.
I've met several pro-life atheists. I've found at least a dozen on this page, pretty sure I'm in a chat with one now.
My best friend is pro-life atheist, stating his argument concisely it's basically each life only has one shot. There's no soul, no pre-life or after life therefore we shouldn't negate any life's opportunity
I don't agree with him, but our 27 year history of respectful discussions gives me some hope people can have productive and respectful disagreements.
educatedredneck
Level 7
Apr 14, 2019
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@SeaGreenEyez lol, actually I grew up in Brown County, Indiana. That best friend is a special ed teacher in Indianapolis. LOL small world huh?
I've only lived in Utah for three years, as odd as it sounds I can't think of a single pro-life friend here. Sure I've met a handful of pro-lifers in Utah but we just haven't connected. My dog park and game night friends are mostly hard left.
That best friend is fairly odd. He's always lived in Indiana, and except for college in Bloomington has lived around Indy.
About the 4th grade he decied he was atheist and after annoying his mom for over a year, she relented and let him stop going to church. I wish I'd been that smart in elementary school!
@educatedredneck So was the friend exmo though? Just curious.
@SeaGreenEyez lol, you're from Utah? That's hilarious!
So far I haven't minded Utah, but I hang out in wine bars, coffee shops...and most of my friends are either Unitarian Universalists or academics. LDS has practically no impact on my daily life.
Where do you want to escape to?
@SeaGreenEyez LDS still have too much power here, but it's waning fast. A friend's daughter was booted from a court room for porn shoulders! Lol but enough complained it didn't happen again a few weeks later.
Did you see gays aren't apostate anymore? Yeah I know baby steps.
Sure LDS still push insanity on sex ed and a few other things.
We'll have medical marijuana next year and the more heretics who move here the better things will be.
I don't mind some LDS influence, they just passed .05 BAC door drunk driving and we we're already one of the safest for drunk driving. Ogden also paired w LDS to refurbish several downtown homes that could only be sold to moderate ince and no rentals. They also fund halfway houses for felons getting out of jail, I know bc a friend who is an antagonistic atheist told them Ill never be LDS but I'll take help to get me back on my feet afyer being in prison.
Lol about cheap abortions, I didn't know that but it makes a lot of sense.
Btw good luck in the Pacific NW, its gorgeous but cost of living seems almost as high as Cali.
Never apply logic to religion, it doesn't work with theists and only gives the rest of us a headache.
LOL, the astonishing flexibility in god's immutable morality pushed me away from xtianity in seminary.
educatedredneck
Level 7
Apr 14, 2019
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If you want consistency don't look for it in the bible or it's adherents. You'll just get a headache.
1of5
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Apr 14, 2019
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lol, read this after I posted, but you beat me to it
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