Sooo helping a Republican Senator from Illinois get re-elected And getting paid 250k is part of Joes learning curve?

@Charlene I would dare to say that you have no proof of that outrageous assertion. People like you would deprive us of the services of great men who had to overcome the limitations of their culture, upbringing, and youth. Harry Truman was a Kansas City, Missouri machine politician whose record was not that of distinction. Yet, he went on to become one of our greatest presidents

Similarly, Judge Hugo Black started out in r4ecist and conservative Alabama culture, but went on to become a great judge who voted against segregation in Brown vs. Board of Education, and who also made many other truly democratic decisions.

Don't be so crudely judgmental, lest your motives be questioned.

@wordywalt A great man Apologizes..Joeboy hasn't.And before you cast aspersions Wordy, I suggest you read this...[nytimes.com]

@Charlene I find your use of "Joeboy" offensive. Who are you to talk about him in such a way?

@Charlene By the way, Biden and Warren are my favority candidates. They would make a great combination ticket.

@wordywalt really..I find your Mansplaining offensive..Biden is an unapologetic Clinton Neo-Liberal that doesn't mind throughing fellow Dems under the bus for money..this Country doesn't Need anymore Corportists in office..we Need Real Democrats that have a spine and Stand Up for the 99%..

@Charlene Your malicious labeling to discourage real conversation is both offensive and immoral. I am not a Clinton fan. I have believed in social democracy since spending almost 3 years in Germany over 50 years ago. Biden may be more to the center than you like, but he is willing and able to work with those left of him to get things done for the benefit of all. He can and would beat Trump. Working with Warren, the most progressive program of action could be mounted that this country has ever seen. I think that is what you want, as do I. You are simply backing the wrong horses-- at this time -- to get the job done. "If piecemeal change or revolution is not working, it is simply because you have not changed enough pieces."

Lose the aggressive labeling habit. I think you are better than that.

@wordywalt aggressive?..again with the derogatory sexist attitude?..lets see..hmmm oh yes..these are Your words mind you.."people like you would" "crudely judgemental" "Your malacious labeling" And again labeling my thoughts as "Offensive"
Yet your overt patriacal attitude to My objects are somehow more reasonable? Seriously ? Dressing your condescending attitude in flowery words Does Not diminish your attitude towards women that are, at the very least, your Equal, if not your Better..

@Charlene I was wrong. You are not better than that. For your information, when I taught at the college level, I was ranked by women students among the 3 least sexist member of the faculty. Your statements about me have no connection with reality, but only in your mind. I tried to be civil. I guess that is too much to expect of you.
I don't give a damn what; your sex is. What I care about in a person is his or her willingness to treat all others with full dignity and respect, and to be civil. Whether you are a male or a female, you are fialing my standards.

@wordywalt than you should follow your suggestions..
I gather you didn't bother to read the NYT link I supplied..oddly Not surprising..

@Charlene I tried. You did not even make any attempt.

@wordywalt and I supplied a link to back up my claim.
You choose not to read it..Your bad, not mine..

@Charlene Again, you make a false assertion. I did read it, and I believe that you have misinterpreted its real content. On the other hand, I have seen no attempt on your part to respond to the points that I made.

You do not know how to disagree without being disagreeable. This is my final comment.

@wordywalt praise the Gaaawds..