IMO, she's the president way above Biden and would rip Trump a new one in any debate since he is the epitome of the stupid moron.

@Healthydoc70 If she cannot be at the top in the primaries, she will not see Trump on the debate stage.

Yes, you are right about Trump. But he was a unique phenomenon. Also that is what exactly he benefited from.... Beating low expectations.

However, do you know of any democratic candidate who has come from behind late in the game and won presidency in the last 30 years? Hillary was the front runner in 2004 but Obama was 2nd.

@St-Sinner Jimmy Carter was an under dog, virtually unkown outside of his own state before running. But, that is about the closest it comes on the Democratic side... at least in my lifetime.

@snytiger6

There are rare perfect storms in politics where an unlikely candidate fit in correctly and surprisingly.

1. Obama came after Bush and Cheney;s destruction of the economy, 2 elective wars, lying for the pretext of Iraq war, 3,000 American lives lost, companies closing, Detroit in shambles, Wall Street crashing 800 points every other day and then came Sarah Palin which was a a huge huge gift for Obama. John Macain made terrible mistakes and was very old -- it was a perfect storm for Obama who was Ivy League educated, well spoken and a likable candidate. He did not vote for Iraq war. It was a huge asset against Hillary Clinton at the time when the nation had every reason wanting a change desperately. I don't think America will elect another black president (or a Jewish, Mromon, gay or atheist). for another 30 years.

2. Jimmy Carter came after Nixon, after Watergate. this was again a perfect storm for Jimmy Carter.

I agree with your point that an underdog can come from behind in the primaries and win the party nomination. Jimmy Carter happened more than 30 years ago. I hope that is Beto O'rourke or Elizabeth Warren and no other. My choice of course. Sadly, I am aware that the country is not ready for Pete Buttigieg yet.

totally agree...