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This is a personal pet peeve of mine & I was wondering if anyone had noticed it as well: Gender neutral occupations like chef, runner, etc. are not usually qualified when a male is being discussed. However, people will say "woman athlete", though they would never say "man athlete". If anything, you'd say "male athlete" & should then say "female athlete".

How words are used are hugely important, especially in subtly conveying meanings. I've always thought this usage, among other related ways in which we use words, is demeaning to females in a way because the wording used implies a difference, when it shouldn't really matter. Not sure if that really makes sense - it's difficult to fully convey what about it rubs me the wrong way.


Decieven 7 June 5

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Just another step in the correct direction. But then, there are circumstances that require a gender-based preceding adjective.


I worked as a baker in a five star hotel for several years and never noticed this. Not in that particular industry anyway. Seems go be more prevalent in athletics.


What about high school/college athletics? If the football or baseball team are the "Wolves" then the girl's teams are the "Lady Wolves". Why aren't the girls the wolves & boys the men wolves? Why are the Tennessee footballers the "Volunteers" or "Vols" while the women's team are the "Lady Vols"? I heard of a hs fb team the "Steers" & the women's teams were the "Lady Steers" ---- which is absurd on more than one level....


Language. Other languages don't differentiate and others still have masculine and feminine contexts strewn all through them.
Language is alive, forever changing. Perhaps English is yet to catch up with 2019 sensibilities?


Such distinctions are wrong gender has nothing to do with them


I say "male chef" or "female chef" if the distinction is important to the discussion.


In my Navy women were called WAVES 1973 now all are called sailors

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