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We have a chaplain where I work. I met him the for the first time yesterday. We had a little discussion. He told me he was fourth generation Christian and I told him I was first generation Agnostic. I don't think I made his day.

Jolanta 9 July 4
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I think it's good for chaplains to know there are a lot of sane, normal people who are not religious, and maybe they can learn how to have meaningful conversations with agnostic folks and speak in inspiring and uplifting ways without supernatural references.

He is nice enough but way too set in his ways, but I am working on him.

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I remember on my first days at college in north England a minister appeared in the common room one day and anounced "I am the minister at the local church of Scotland, any Scots here ?" the response was so underwhelming that I almost felt sorry for him.

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It made my day

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Oops that happens lol

bobwjr Level 10 July 4, 2019
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Ah well it is good for him.

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Wish I saw his reaction.

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Well, he can just pray for his day to get better or pray for your soul. If there is a God who answers prayer, he'll feel better soon, or you'll be saved.

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I hope he has no power over you.

None what so ever or I would not have told him about being first generation agnostic.

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Think I'd have a serous issue working someplace that had a chaplain on staff.

1of5 Level 8 July 4, 2019

Hospitals need chaplains. Some people might argue about the rights of various faiths, and confronting the brutality of life, but no body (including armed security) can get a hysterical family out of the hallway and into a side room, and talk some sense into em, like a chaplain.

@Burner

Good point.

I work for essential services and they think they may come in handy and sometimes they do. They are pretty harmless.

@Burner oh look, an actual use for them. That's something you don't find every day.

@Jolanta but would a trained counceler be better at the job than they are?

@1of5 "trained counslor" is pretty much what these chaplain s are, but with a monotheistic bent instead of secular. That doesn't make them inherently less valuable. In my eyes. I don't know how hospitals would react go a request for less churchy type counseling, like "spiritual but not relgious" or "secular ethicist", but they generally have a long roster of rabbis, imams, Unitarians, Catholics... if you don't want the generic non denominational xtian.

@Burner yes, grief counselors without actual, formal training, and a penchant for metaphysics. No thanks.

@1of5 I agree, but having them available and on the payroll is a business decision. We both know that throwing money at people who supposedly "know things", even with no tangible evidence, is a human trait.

@1of5 We have those too.

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