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So I was at the library today.

I was sitting in a bowl-chair reading a book, and someone turned away to look at me, pointed at something they were drinking, and said "I'm sorry, is this bothering you?"

Now to give some clarification to the memory I am talking about, I hadn't uttered a word to that person, nor was I engaging them socially at all. I was simply some feet away, reading, trying to finish a rabbinic parable so I could move on to understanding the world a little bit more until my attention had been claimed by the comment.

My reply was "Do I tell anyone that I am bothered?"

She said "What?", more or less. She asked me to repeat myself.

So I said "I said, do I tell anyone that I am bothered?"

She said "No."

I then said "So I am not bothered." At that moment, I was bothered because the person had asked a dumb question-If I hadn't uttered a word to that person about their drink, then why would they assume that I was bothered, unless they were completely stupid?

It's the simplest damned thing in the world. If there is something plain to sensibility, don't assume otherwise because it's fucking dumb.

DZhukovin 7 Aug 15
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It appears to me that she was being polite and simply asked a question. People can ask questions, whether you deem them stupid or not. I teach social skills to bright/intelligent high school students on the spectrum. The scenario you described sounds similar to one's I have witnessed with my students' interactions. They have great difficulty taking the perspective of others. They tend to use logic that comes across as rude. I teach them that in social communication these are not the best ways to interact.

That's real cute. I'm sure other people never, ever notice when you're reacting to information, including the people who do your performance analytics at work.

Obviously, if you take comfort in making others, maybe even more likely males, lose integrity or biologically recede, then it cannot be claimed that your assertion is without a personal agenda, just FYI before you think that people can't see what you're doing.

Also, I'm not on the spectrum because I appeared not to relate to others, because this is not a diagnostic appointment for the spectrum, okay?

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Some people are sensitive to sounds people make: breathing, chewing, drinking, etc. It is called misophonia. Perhaps, this was such a person; and, knowing that many people who are bothered will not say anything, she just wanted to make sure the noises she was making were not bothering you?

That's a pretty interesting take. I wonder what misophonia is like, but it's out of my field to inquire on that, specifically.

Sometimes I get tender eardrums because of exhaustion or compromised metabolism from normal routines, but I've never become upset over noise that wasn't actually trying to injure my ear....did you know that low-frequencies or high volumes can damage cells? Even if a person is not a misophoniac, they can get upset by noise because of gradual wear on eardrum proteins.

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Maybe today we are so afraid of offending. If I am in Walmart and other stores like it people all say "excuse me" when they walk in front of me, beside me, or behind me. This happens if we are within 4 feet of each other. Hey, we all have to walk somewhere. Nobody cut me off or walked into me and I don't own the floor. Sometimes I smile and say there is no problem. Polite is polite but I feel like people are scared to death. As far as back and forth banter I get along with everyone and that includes those who do open carry.

I see those nervous people all the time. There is this one guy at my gym that starts having a panic attack every time someone he doesn't know is in his personal space.

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I never miss people ... with public venues being the worst. People, in order to feel secure, need to have everything appear as they think it should be, generally based on a move or shit-com. Police take that concept to another level.. If one behaves as an individual, or fails to adequately acknowledge their presence, these people feel it’s within their right to pull you into their (often fucked up) world. It gets old - fast.

I suspect crap like that is partially responsible for the ‘earbud evasion.’ It’s not that most are listening to something they feel compelled to ‘hear,’ but it gives them a visible excuse to ignore the annoying masses.. I’ll often use earplugs, then give a stupid smile to a stupid question 🙂

Varn Level 8 Aug 15, 2019

Dude, YES. This one time, I went on a non-normal date, and the police decided to keep their headlights on me so I would go somewhere else with my date. Apparently having discussions about theory and other logical stuff is a red flag to people who don't grasp what is going on. I hate how some people are. Some people are totally non-reactive, and thoughtful. Other people are just psychotic, or they believe that they're in a movie or something.

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It sounds like she was either trying to start a conversation or, more likely, thought that she may have genuinely offended you in some way.

The fact that you were reading a rabbinic parable "in order to understand the world a bit more" tells me everything I need to know. Jesus...

Why? What's wrong with the rabbinic parable? Parables can be food for thought, concerning self. It's a good way to understand why certain people are the way they are.

I'm at a point where sometimes, I believe that I have met every flavor and level of person. I shouldn't mislead myself with that.

@DZhukovin It's okay... It will get better. I used to be addicted to Iambic Pentameter.

I'm hip!

@RiverRick

I see. So that's the consumption of poetry, not the contemplation of it.

I personally might have a consumption reflex towards information sometimes. It's tough to evaluate different approaches, and pick the best means of thinking about it. There's always so many conflicting considerations...for example, why might one interpretation be more productive, and what causes the limitation in different manners of interpretation? What is the character of that production? I think I will talk about this concept in one of the books I'm writing, involving the exploration of mind, without the obfuscation of trivia. It's about the mind, but in a clear, coherent format that helps understand intelligent considerations, and how to evaluate them.

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Making small talk and afraid of offending

bobwjr Level 10 Aug 15, 2019
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sorry, but there are people who are embarrassed, or ashamed to tell people that they are suffering discomfort at their actions. Sometimes people will just give looks or make gestures. Sometimes as in maybe this case, the person just wants attention which they probably wanted by making noise like sucking through a straw at the end of the drink which will make noise. There have been many times when people were causing a disturbance to me in a library and I didn't voice my displeasure hoping the library staff would do something about it. Unfortunately, these days apparently there is no decorum required in libraries anymore, at least at my library.

lerlo Level 8 Aug 15, 2019
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Perhaps she was just being polite ... an answer of “no, not at all” may have been a more appropriate response from you,

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I think you did not quite get it. Seems to me that she wanted to talk to you and that was an opening for her.

I can definitely grasp that. But she could have been any age, anyway. I NEVER romantically or sexually interact with a girl trying to pick me up unless I know the key details about her, full stop.

@DZhukovin Ok, but it takes two to tango.

@Jolanta

That's still true!

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