LOL that's one of my other favorite memes

Well even in that scenario God spent thousands of years damning everyone and basically not giving a shit.

@LenHazell53 Yes, which is why I said that their scenario is also problematic. They just don't have as much time to account for. Nor do they have the problem of just when did humans get a "soul" as they think humans were created with it.

I often wonder about this. It is as if a historical Jesus is used to make a propitiatory sacrifice for something that happened in an allegory. Just recently, I'm hearing intimations from Christians that perhaps the resurrection is an allegory too. I think they must mean Christ's death really, if they want to claim the later allegorical event makes the propitiation for the earlier allegorical event.

@brentan Since most of the events of the gospels are plagiarized from elsewhere it is likely that someone once did arrange with his followers to drug him with a catalypsey inducing drug on the "Sponge on a stick" which the Romans would find very funny as sour wine soaked sponges on sticks were their version of toilet paper, they were literally making an arse of him.
They then take him down after paying a soldier to prod him with a spear instead of breaking his legs, and revive him afterward.
The same thing happened a few centuries later when the highwayman Jack Shepard was hanged, after being drugged to fake an quick death, he was then taken down, revived and spirited away to the USA.

@LenHazell53 That's humorous but adds nothing to the discussion.

@brentan It is not meant to be humorous, all I have stated is either historical fact or a reasonable inductive conclusion.

@LenHazell53 About some other topic.