Just a comment about believers who post on this site . . . . I just saw a post by one . . . but it was deleted, probably because the person who was posting it was considered to be trolling . . .
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Me, I say let them give it all they got . . . . because we can meet them head on and smoke their asses . . . . let them post their bull shit. That gives us a chance to wake them up.
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I know, I know, there are defeatists out there who think no one from that group can be turned . . . but that is completely false. I was turned when I was in the Navy, and the secret is that you can't expect instant results . . . . they go away and start thinking about how they are going to counter your arguments next time around, find out they can't and have to either change their POV, or lie to themselves more. ALL people are susceptible, if the US propaganda machine has not convinced you of that, you are not awake.
This is where we come to avoid dealing with believers. They show up to preach or to convert us, while they're already everywhere else.
I don't think we can stop them from appearing. But, when they do, they should come prepared, because their sky fairy won't be of any help to them while under siege.
I’d say you’re exactly right in your long term assessment of how change can happen … but we can find those fights everywhere.. The reason I come here is the lack of religious crazies (which fb & such are full of). Let’s keep them out, they’ve got their tax subsidized mansions of worship, let us at least have ‘this.’ Let’s strategize here -- then go huntin