This brings up the problem of Theodisy

Question

An omniscient god cannot have emotions. For example, if you came home to find that your spouse has been having an affair. You would become angry or sad because it is new information, something you've now learned. If you had all knowledge there would be nothing for you to learn, you would have known everything for as long as you existed. An emotional, omniscient, god nullifies itself. So, an omniscient god, repentant of previous actions, that eventually destroys everything in a flood because of anger is ridiculous and stupid (Genesis 6:6). This would be like feigning surprise at a surprise birthday party that you threw for yourself and then wrecking the place in a fit of anger because it turned out EXACTLY the way you knew it would.

Geologists before 1800 were creationists and devout Christians who believed that the rocks they were studying were deposits of Noah’s flood. But by 1840, they had completely rejected the idea of a global flood because the rock record clearly didn't support the idea. In other words, a global flood never happened and around 1840 geologists were forced to accept that fact.

The problem for believers is that the Biblical character Jesus believed in the Noah's Ark story - Matthew 24:37-39. Which of course would prove he was not a god, the messiah or a prophet.

When backed into a corner, the religious "nitpick" every little angle to save themselves. For example, I asked a "pastor" to explain why god commands Noah to take 2 of each bird on the ark in Genesis 6:20, then commands him to take 7 pairs of birds in Genesis 7:3. Here is his answer: "7 is gods perfect number, so in this case 7 is actually meaning 2, the perfect number for Noah to take on the ark." However, when I asked why didn't Noah take only 2 of each clean animal when god commands him to take 7 pairs (Genesis 7:2), He said, "Oh no, they were to be used as food and sacrifice". I wasn't about to get into the fact that the carnivores would have taken out most of the animals within the first few weeks of debarkation. How sad, accepting an antiquated book as inerrant, which has already been proven to be blatantly ridiculous, leads to this type of self-disception and delusion.

For those who would like to understand how impossible "Noah's Ark" would be, there is a great resource by the National Center for Science Education located here: [ncse.com]

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Answer 1

We need to bear in mind that we don’t know if ‘Jesus’ believed in Noah’s Ark or not. It is given the context by the writer of Matthew who, as an apocalyptic writer, needed the association with antiquity to give his central character validity for his role.

The problem is relating biblical texts as a coherent unit rather than an anthology of gripping stories!

Answer 2

The first paragraph is just anthropomorphism.

Regarding the flood, is pretty much considered that a breach caused by the Bosphorus caused the flooding of the area which is now The Black Sea. This area would have been the known world during the era in which the narrative was created. Bear in mind that the flood recollection is recorded in The Epic Of Gilgamesh which predates the Genesis account by 1,000 years or so and was received narrative at that time.

As with all good stories and storytellers the tales would be embellished. As an example think of all the Shakespeare plays that have been given modern adaptions, a different text, transplantation in space and time, to appeal to a different audience.

Answer 3

This brings up the problem of Theodisy

If god is all knowing, all powerful, all loving, why is there so much evil & injustice in the world. Who do good people get cancer & sociopaths become billionaires on Wall St.

So either god doesn't know, is powerless to stop it, or just doesn't care, which means he, she,it is not loving

Answer 4

I have emotional responses to movies I have seen a second time. Just because you have knowlege doesnt mean there is no emotion. Remember, emotion is a configuration of neural pathways interacting. Emotions as we understand them. Require the passage of time.

Answer 5

Even though I have no reason to think that any kind of god exists, I cannot know whether some being, or beings, that could be called a god, or gods, exist(s) somewhere inside, or outside, of our universe. However, I can know that the "God" of the Bible is too human, and too contradictory, to exist.

Answer 6

Arguing much content in an insane fiction book (bible) is like encouraging a delusional patient keeping a diary of hallucinations.....in order for sanity to resume in childhood memories building up from roots of reality, the pages and pages of bible are better used as toilet paper ....and Thomas Paine 1789 creationist wrote the first repudiation of bible content calling John, apostles and the alleged jeezus irrational "dreams" impostiture politely meaning idiotic lies...he declared the human mind is like a watch which is not tinkered with by the watchmaker gawd of Nature not divine right King George....THE AGE of REASON 3RD PART was written in Paris from his memory of the KJbible....in his words "to prevent Atheism" by those who might actually read the bible critically according to natural laws

Answer 7

This myth is exceptionally vulnerable to REASON, isn't it? If some snappish, childish deity decided to punish everyone in the world for using free will....why kill all the animals, too? Were the aardvarks being sinful? Were the pangolins being pornographic? "Allegory" doesn't even begin to touch the nonsense of biblical myths.

Answer 8

The problem for believers is that the Biblical character Jesus believed in the Noah's Ark story - Matthew 24:37-39. Which of course would prove he was not a god, the messiah or a prophet.

I like these words of yours and they prove the inaccuracy of Christianity totally. At least they do to me. Most Christians continue to believe the Noah's Ark story but it is impossible on so many different levels.

Answer 9

To be honest I think that sceptics have too easy a shot at Noah's ark, in many ways it is a straw-man construction to think that all theists see it as a literal story, while most know that it is a much earlier myth which predates the bible, even if they do not take it metaphorically. ( And yes I do know that there are a few really stupid/indoctrinated theists out there who do take it literally. )

Answer 10

Even simpler. If God made all the animals in the first place, why could he not do it again and save Noah the bother ?

Answer 11

And...it is impossible for a good god to want to torment people, and animals, the good along with the bad.The babies along with the old folks, the puppies and the kittens....Sometimes I imagine how terrible it must be to drown. The suffering, though it only lasts a few minutes. An almighty god could have just simply deleted them. UGG. Why did I EVER believe? HE is the destroyer.


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