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Just a thought that I've had since I was young trying to understand the rotation of the earth, and time travel.

That may sound like a mishmash, but let me explain.

The earth rotates once every 23 hours, 56 minutes and 4.09053 seconds, called the sidereal period, and its circumference is roughly 40,075 kilometers. Thus, the surface of the earth at the equator moves at a speed of 460 meters per second--or roughly 1,000 miles per hour.

Our orbital speed around the sun is about 67,000 mph (107,000 km/h), according to Cornell. We can calculate that with basic geometry. First, we have to figure out how far Earth travels. Earth takes about 365 days to orbit the sun.

As such, the arms are moving through space. The sun and the solar system travel with them. The solar system travels at an average speed of 515,000 mph (828,000 km/h). Even at this rapid speed, the solar system would take about 230 million years to travel all the way around the Milky Way

Understanding this bdes the question I had back then, and still do. That is. if one was to time travel just a second or two, you would be floating in space farther than you might be able to calculate.
With that said. How could time travel be possible without a fast, Very fast spaceship.

There could be some maths, or other phyics that I may be missing. But as thus time, I just don't see a way around that.
Just my . 02 cents.

TristanNuvo 8 Sep 13
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Time travel does not change your current position at any given point in your time. It has been verified several times. The space station has been orbiting for over 3000 days at 8000 meters per second. The accumulated uncorrected time difference is just under 1/10 of one second. But the space station and our GPS satellites make tiny periodic clock adjustments because they understand this.

You can see that yes, you would need a really really fast space ship to notice any significant difference, approaching at least 1/2 the speed of light or more. The reality is if you could travel that fast and traveled to the next nearest star system and back, you would have aged just over a decade, but literally everyone you knew on earth would be long dead and gone.

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Time travel is also lazy storytelling. It’s so freaking overdone and overused and abused. I’d be happy if another time travel plot never comes to be.

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Yes si-fi time travel is complete bunkum, look up the time travelers paradox as well.

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Maybe those UFOs that appear to instantly accelerate to incredible speeds are actually traveling in time rather than space. (or as well as in space).

That is yet another great theory for some great stories.

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Traveling in time is traveling in space. You need to know the coordinates of the place your going at the time you wish to be there. This would seem to be approaching a problem too difficult to solve with great enough accuracy. One would need the speed of that point and its direction at the precise time required. To solve that problem in one of my stories, the point in time and space is calculated, then the traveler is transported to a spot near enough to that calculated location to allow the traveler to move in on the target without those horrible possibilities over entering the point inside a rock or 50' above it, etc. In another I used a system of 4-brane matching, which is at best problematical. I've written several using time as the premise, but most of them ignore these problems or just give them lip service.

Without a farther understanding on "space time", we are left with conjecture. Don't get me wrong, I love an abundance of stories about time travel, way bach from the Twilight zone, to Star Trek, to many since. My thought on this post was with a bit of duality. I love the stories, but the math gives me moment to pause. Sometimes I just need to shut off my brain, and just get into the story.

@TristanNuvo -- The math is pretty straightforward, it's the probability of error that's the nasty part. As for the issue of time travel itself, it is and will remain conjecture until it is accomplished. As a writer, I find it fun to play with. As a scientist, I have little doubt that we will one day achieve reverse movement, at least at the particle level. We already have rudimentary time machines that work in the forward direction. The LHC being the most interesting one.

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Oh indeed, that one would be displaced relative to the surface of the earth on several levels. To work as they do in science fiction, one would basically be teleporting through time and space.

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You have to get Superman to turn the planet backwards, so everything un-happens.

Which begs the question- if he can do this to save Lois Lane, why can't he do it to solve every problem, every time?

(Secret answer- he only cares about Lois. Superman's a dick.)

I got a kick out of the fact that no one thought about the Earth coming apart because of the speed needed to do that.

@evidentialist Even more basic, just think of all the cars and people and buildings flying around. Aircraft tossed around like bugs by the turbulence; the air isn't magically attached to the ground. Just spinning the planet around doesn't do anything to time, but it sure would fuck up everything else.

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Anchoring man! You gotta reference yourself (or whatever you are sending through time) to a physical thing. I’ve thought about this too. This may limit how far in time one could travel since nothing is permanent. Also it creates all kinds of questions about exactly what anchoring would be and what kind of things could be anchors. Perhaps something akin to particle entanglement.

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