it doesnt matter if its supportive... if 10%-15% of births are c section because it makes the mom and baby healthier, why shoulddnt we try to make them even healthier by giving probiotic supplements or such?

@MarkiusMahamius I meant psychologically supportive...I have known 2 women who felt like failures because they had to have C-sections...in my life, there was a time where it was believed that once you had a C-section, you Always had to have one. The expense, (longer hospital stay, and needing help at home afterwards) for working-class families was substantial, at a time when birthh control wasn't much (douching, crummy condoms, the Rhythm Method)

@AnneWimsey do you think posting about better health outcomes is bad, if its not also "psychologically suportive"?

@MarkiusMahamius having to "save" the babies by giving them something the mother was unable to provide implies she was incompetent.
Incidentally, i just read several articles, one in AARP Magazine, that stated "do not waste your money on probiotics, they do not survive the GI tract, usually not even to the stomach". So I question who wrote this, and why.....probiotic makers, maybe?

@AnneWimsey fecal transplants (sounds horibble but its a thing) are veey successful for some diseases.

The idea that being unable to deliver a baby vaginally, made skme women feel incompetent, is really sad. Im glad ive never run into that before, i hope that belief system has faded.

@AnneWimsey
A fecal transplant is when a doctor transplants feces from a healthy donor into another person to restore the balance of bacteria in their gut. Fecal transplants may treat gastrointestinal infections and other conditions.

[medicalnewstoday.com]

@MarkiusMahamius as recently as 20-ish years ago, a friend had a boy born with a port-winebirthmark on about 1/6th of his face, and the MIL asked what horrible sin the mother had committed to cause it? sigh