Abstract and objective. The Catholic church had nothing about suicide as a sin, until too many priests decided to get to heaven and leave their literal shit hole. Then it became a sin. I expect much sin is similarly founded.

@Beowulfsfriend I thought it was Augustine that declared suicide a sin in early C5th and something to do with Lucretia’s suicide after she’d been raped. I may be wrong there but something similar is at the back of my head somewhere

@Geoffrey51 Yes, two hundred years after the church laid its treaties and laws and set the trinity as the "correct" version.

Right? My brother is a miserable person underneath the bigotry and hypocrisy. He’s compelled to brag about his money, power, and how much he helps the poor. I’m legitimately poor, and chronically ill; he called me a lying faker to my face. He has never once offered to help me!

@CarolinaGirl60 Sounds insecure and a vey large dickhead. I think Jeez had something to say about braggadocio and the widow’s mite being more valuable in the eyes of God

Perhaps throw that one at him. Don’t know the reference but probably Matthew. He does well with the grand narrative!