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I like this meme found at [foolquest.com].

BestWithoutGods 8 Oct 28
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Seen it several times.

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Put that way, things seem dire and hopeless. I prefer to think that some religious people are reasonable and that common ground can be found.

What’s to prevent a religious person from saying, “If you could reason with atheists, there would be no atheists”?

In the purest meaning, an atheist is a person who is not persuaded of God’s existence, based on the evidence seen so far. If you are arguing over the issue, that means that your mind is made up and you think that any idea that conflicts with your firm opinion is wrong.

No one can prove or disprove things that are outside the human realm of understanding.

In my experience, there is no good evidence for theism. That points directly to atheism.

However, I am open to hearing good evidence for theism. It is, as you say, possible that I have overlooked something convincing. If so, please bring it to my attention. Good luck finding it! 🙂

@BestWithoutGods No thanks.
It’s up to each person to look and think. 🙂

@WilliamFleming I've done years of looking and thinking. My conclusion (unless I come across convincing evidence that I missed before) is that there is no good reason, logic, facts or evidence for believing in gods. Therefore, I am an atheist.

@BestWithoutGods There is no reason for believing that anything at all exists except through our experience of conscious awareness, and no one understands what that is.

Therefore I am a confusionist.

@WilliamFleming You're kidding, right?

@BestWithoutGods Not at all. I invented the term just to describe myself. From a cosmic perspective any question having to do with causation, creation, location, time, matter or motion is totally meaningless. Every sensory experience is an experience of nothing but our nervous systems. Framing that is our “self”, consisting of conscious awareness. Our sense of being a separate person in a body is a delusion.

No one understands this mysterious situation in which we find ourselves, and to argue about God is presumptuous IMO.

@WilliamFleming Very well. I respect your right to your own opinions, even when mine are different. I wish you the best. 🙂

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