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So this isn't a women's forum but I don't think anyone is going to be offended by this - and also, it's better if women's partners are not asking or advising them to do things that can be damaging /unhealthy to their skin and organs. [bbc.com]

Allamanda 8 Nov 8
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I have known women who used a variety of sprays, creams and douches for cleanliness, but had never heard of steam cleaning till reading this ... but works fine on car engines so should be ok!!! I had one lover who showered her pubes, but she really enjoyed getting herself clean,
Hair removal? each to their own style ,,,, women spend time and money on shaping and colouring heads and hair removal from calves to face, si few surprises that pubic hair designs flourish

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I read the article and I'm happy to report that I knew all of those things.

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My hair stylist told me she has girls of 12 and 13 coming in for public hair removal: painful waxing. Removing the first signs of adulthood- even as they appear- is creepy with its overtones of infantilization and impetus in hard-core pornography.

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Not really relevant to me, but I have to just wonder, at the vast amount of misinformation out there on every subject imaginable. What sort of idiot, pedaling what sort of woo, persuades women to put things like cleaners and steam up their vagina, and what sort of education system does a country have to have in order to produce people so uncritical that they do it ?

@Allamanda I remember when young and at school. (Sixties onwards.) The school used to have a girls teacher and classroom, where the main thing taught was health care. I know, because although strictly closed to boys the girls told us. It was abolished by the last headmaster because it was said to be sexist, in part just an excuse, and also because the then fashion was that all education was supposed to be about preparing people for work, and anything else was outdated. He was not the only headmaster at the time to do this. The teacher left, and I don't think that the subject ever returned either. (He also threw out history, rural studies, which was environmentalism and gardening, and several other 'soft' subjects.) Yet I have to wonder, what could be more importants to society as a whole, and even an efficient work force, than that most of its population should have a good solid basic understanding of how to maintain their health. And don't get me started on rural studies.

@Allamanda No, we were left to our own devices. But of course if they wanted to truly abolish sexism, then they could have given us one, that is why I say the sexism line was just an excuse. Though I do think that part of the idea was that it was a female 'role' to do health care for the whole family including the males. It was a very different world then, but it did have its good points.

@Allamanda And of course the teaching of music and arts, would have done much to block the rise of crass commercial junk culture. There is nothing but good that comes from real education, which is perhaps why it is so much a part of the schools job to see that no one gets any.

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