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My loving, caring dad, who wouldn't hurt a fly, was singing "Victory in Jesus" to my one-and-a-half year old. He told my little one that Jesus saved everyone. (I'm cringing inside from the apparent baby indoctrination). I did it. I just couldn't stand by and let all this happen. I chimed in and told him that not everyone believes that. He said that those who didn't would be sent to hell. I said not everyone actually believes that. He quoted from the Bible that it's true. I asked him if there were any OTHER sources than the Bible to prove that. He paused and later asked to pray for me. I rushed past him and gave an excuse, which was true: "I have to use the restroom". I took my time in there till he left upstairs to go to bed.
He meant well, but he doesn't understand this one thing: after hearing my two cents about what I think about the Bible, why would I think it would do any good? He believes his prayer will magically change my mind even with many logical fallacies regarding the veracity of the Bible.

Biblebeltskeptic 6 Nov 18
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Funny, but had just read an essay in the FFRF "Freethought Today' about the Supreme Court. [nytimes.com] The author is a FFRF member. In the report Scalia, the one real christian villain, was touted and shown as making decisions that actually supported our cause. "But to say that a nondiscriminatory religious practice exemption is permitted, or even that it is desirable, is not to say that it is constitutionally required, and that the appropriate occasions for its creation can be discerned by the courts. It may fairly be said that leaving accommodation to the political process will place at a relative disadvantage those religious practices that are not widely engaged in; but that unavoidable consequence of democratic government must be preferred to a system in which each conscience is a law unto itself or in which judges weigh the social importance of all laws against the centrality of all religious beliefs.”."..I thought Justice Scalia had it right 29 years ago, and I think his opinion is even more relevant today, when claims for conscience-based carve-outs from legal requirements are rampant and are being granted by the courts and the executive branch with little regard for the harm these exemptions cause to third parties." In other words the impact on the many has to be preferred to the impact on the few.

Point being Scalia became more radical and his catholic fundamentalism grew as he aged. Age and conservatism seem to go hand-in-hand.

Thanks for giving me the opportunity to include this on the site. I was wondering how I could do it.

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Your conversation with your dad, especially his reply, "those who didn't would be sent to hell." reminds me of this meme (this is me trying to find humour in a tough situation).

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I’m shook… Stay strong, for your child.

Varn Level 8 Nov 19, 2019
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That is a tough situation, with no real obvious solution. I am glad I have never had to face that particular problem.

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Very sad when it's family have the same thing

bobwjr Level 10 Nov 19, 2019
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