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What is your opinion of trophy hunting? Trevor Noah discusses it in this clip. [facebook.com]

ToolGuy 9 Nov 19
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Totally disagree with trophy hunting, and/or giving permits for it.

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Pointless and cruel. It’s hardly a level playground. It was with great joy that I read about the hunter who was killed by his prey, the buck, that he thought he had killed.

Now that is my kind of trophy. Cut off his head and hang it on the wall of the local pub. Wonder how they would go down!

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I fail to understand why trophy hunting is any worse than other hunting. The end result is the same. Also, I see no difference in hunting wild animals or butchering domestic animals.

It’s all a part of nature—we evolved to eat meat. Chimpanzees, our closest animal cousins, are avid hunters and meat-eaters.

Because there is a BIG difference in killing an animal for food and killing it just for the joy of killing it. And, it is especially appalling when it is a canned hunt and/or involves animals that are an endangered or threatened species.

@Joanne There is also a difference between killing animals for food and eating dead animals for food. There are activists who don't approve killing animals for any reason including for medical experiments. There is a wide variety of selective sympathy in every issue and every side likes to think they have a higher ground but what it comes down to is... Killing anything is wrong and immoral. Killing for food is not justified in the civilized world. We don't live in jungles any more.

@ToolGuy I watched part of the video, which is only mildly funny, is based on childish sentimentality, and which gets old quickly. There is nothing there of substance

Maybe if you are such a great analyst and critical thinker you will actually address the points that I raised instead of resorting to a personal attack.

@Joanne Please explain just what that big difference is. In both cases the meat is used for food. Those guided hunts are highly regulated and have a positive effect on overall wildlife populations.

You are making an extremely negative personal judgment against the hunter who keeps a portion of the animal for a souvenir, as though that act reveals some horrible daemonic character flaw.

It is local meat hunters and poachers who are more likely to adversely affect the natural order.

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Trophy hunting is immoral and wrong and I believe it is illegal on most lands. People doing it are criminals and I hold no respect for those despicables.

@ToolGuy I hope you will agree more once you know I have sound opinions 🙂

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The page didn't load so I didn't see the Facebook thing you shared but here's my preexisting opinion on it.

Gross but I hear it's one of the biggest funders of keeping wildlife protected. No one else is putting out that kind of money.

Wildlife is bunched up in small areas in unnatural groups. It is not possible for populations to survive this way without some of them being culled. Groups of angry male elephants start murdering the rhinos exc..

In order for the animals to have any sort of chance some specific ones need to be killed.

If the park takes in a few hundred thousand to let a rich guy do it instead of paying for the bullets themselves I think that is a good thing.

That type of trophy hunting is done with permits and lots of red tape. I don't like the people who do it per say, but usually for different reasons. The real problem for the wildlife is the poaching and habitat destruction caused by poverty and desperation. If people are so upset about rare animals dying they need to focus on fixing that. Right now obnoxious big game hunters seem to be doing more than most by doing what they are doing.

MsAl Level 8 Nov 19, 2019

Ok I saw the clip now. It is gross rich white americans shooting things in Africa. We continue to buy their oil, rare earth metals, timber and nutella though. Each of those things causes much more rare animal death than trophy hunting. If you are worried about animals drive less, stop buying so many small electronics. Stop using so much stuff in general.

@ToolGuy Money does trump wildlife. The Amazon is an excellent example. It's being burned so the land will be profitable. It is an unfortunate truth.

Burning oil causes climate change, so does raising cattle. Also massive habitat destruction. Buying cheap furniture made of illegal timber is paying people to destroy habitat. It's true that big companies and advertisers drive these markets but they do need to sell to someone..

It is an ethical question. My opinion is definitely not popular but I think it is the most ethical that's why I always bring it up.

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Only if they can shoot back.

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