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Sometimes, I feel like I'm never going to really fit into society anymore. I'm going to share my story, but I'd also like to know if anyone else on here can relate.

So, I was raised in a small predominantly black Pentecostal church from childbirth. The church community I was raised in believed in speaking in tongues, faith healing, shouting, prophesying, miracles, and other supposed 'supernatural' things. At one point, they even taught that our church/denomination was 'THE' church. Basically, a cult. I was very sheltered from a lot of things for a good portion of my life. I didn't really start listening to secular music until late high school. I didn't drink, smoke, club, or sleep around. In fact, I was taught to frown on all of that and was a little condescending. I got branded as that good upright Christian boy early in life. Unfortunately, it only got worse as I got older and started to make a name for myself in the Christian music industry.

I've always been around musically inclined people. I started by singing in the children's choir. Then, I started playing piano at age 7. I started playing for tge church a few years after that. So music has always been a part of who I am. And I was good at being a musician. So I was starting to get a reputation for being a 'talented man of god'. I was basically being placed on a pedestal. I tried hard to live up to the expectations of the Christian community. And just to interject, in the black community in the south or the bible beltway, it's generally just assumed that you are a believer by default. If you say you're a believer, you're seen as a respectable individual and easily accepted within the black community. But as soon as you say that you don't believe, the black Christian community feels betrayed twice by you. The first being that you betrayed them as a believer. The second being that you betrayed the race and culture...as if being a believer is synonymous with being black. It really sucks.

Anyway, coming out as a non-believer after wearing the title of believer for over 3 decades was not easy. It all started when I dealt with my cognitive dissonance and had a self-honesty moment. I realized that everything I had built up in my life was about to fall apart. I worked so hard to have a good reputation as a Christian. I also worked really hard to get established in the Gospel/Christian music industry. I was recording, producing, writing, and touring with artist around the world. I was the musical director for a mega church and all. I was like a golden child to my family. My whole life was engulfed in church and religious beliefs. My wife, my friends, my job, and my social life. All of it was centered around the church/religious community. So when I became 100% honest and accepted that I didn't believe anymore, it broke me. I had to rethink EVERYTHING in my life. I had to walk away from some people, church, religious functions, faith based organizations, and pretty much clients that I had worked with for years. I wanted to completely get away from all of it, because I felt it was all toxic. Not only that, but I was coming out of something I spent 33 years in. It was NOT easy letting go, but I knew that the belief no longer made sense to me. In fact, I also had to acknowledge that I was only trying to make myself believe in it the belief system. It's what I was taught and all I knew. I was never given the option to explore other religious beliefs or just nothing at all. But trying to believe and actually believing are two different things. I realized that I just wasn't allowing myself to dwell on the questionable things about the belief I was raised to abide by. But once I did, it was over. No looking back. I was in limbo for 3 years. I was just trying to makes sense of my life, discover what I did and didn't believe, and get back my footing in life so I fully understood my new thinking process and where I stood as a human being.

It's been about 10 years since I started to accept I'm not a Christian anymore. Even to this day it feels like a form of PTSD. Removing myself from a very familiar mentally abusing religious environment, that I've felt comfortable in for years, was the traumatic part. I didn't have a life threatening experience and no one talked me into becoming atheist. I literally became atheist, because I was trying to 'get closer to god'. And I tried hard. That's why I'm at peace with not believing. I even researched other beliefs, but I still wasn't convinced. I just could not see the value of worshipping and thanking a god that isn't real in my life.

So now, I'm atheist. But, I feel like I'm in a weird space.

First, I'm an introvert. Maybe an ambivert. I'm open minded and not judgmental like I used to be, but I still have no real interest in certain things like drinking, smoking, parties, getting tats/piercings, or many other popular social activities. I just feel like that 'normal and responsible' guy with no life.

Secondly, I'm not a militant atheist. I'm a firm non-believer, but I'm not really interested into the debating, heated discussions, and bashing. I prefer peaceful and respectful interactions with believers. However, I do get annoyed and agitated with all of the religious jargon. Even when I hear phrases like 'god bless you', 'I'm blessed', 'thank god', or 'god is good', it's like a minor trigger that makes me want to roll my eyes or just not have a conversation with the person who said it. I guess that's part of the PTSD thing.

Lastly, it's sometimes hard for me to find other atheists that I can relate to and really connect with that were not raised in a religious environment as a believer prior to becoming atheist. Specifically, in a predominantly black Pentecostal church environment. There are just things more commonly experienced in black churches than anywhere else. There's just a comfort in connecting with other people that understand from first hand experience. And just for the record, I have no issues with other races. This is just my story. I'm black and was raised sheltered in a predominantly black environment. It just hasn't been easy to find and connect with men and women in my area that can actually relate. Any similar experiences?

MusicManDre 6 Jan 11
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@musicmandre. I see others have shared their story, and I don't think my story would add anything new. I have a question for you, if you wish to share. First as a point of reference, I grew up in the city of Baltimore and left in 1974 to go to college. Half of my high school mates were black. At 63 , I now work in the IT industry and I have professional black colleagues in their late 20s up to say 40. So my black acquantances are either 63+ or younger than 40. So here is my question, none of my black colleagues or friends are agnostics. Most are openly religous. On the caucasian side, maybe 25-35 % are agnostic. This is confusing to me.... is my experience singular? anyone have any insights to this?

Well, most black people in the city where I live here in Florida or openly religious as well. You are more likely to find a white agnostic/atheist than a black agnostic/atheist in my area. I don't know the exact statistics, but there are atheist groups in my city that are mainly white. I mean, I think it's great that there are groups here representing non-believers, but I guess because religion has been something a lot of black people cling to, it's not always easy to find an openly black agnostic/atheist here. It's kind of a situation where they are just trying to find a way to be themselves without losing acceptance of community. I was quiet for a while, because I wasn't ready to deal with the consequences of being openly honest about by non-belief. Unfortunately, a lot of black families cling to religion, because it's familiar and all they know.

@MusicManDre well for what it's worth you got friends here. It's not the same as being face to face ...

@Bigwavedave thanks. Much appreciated.

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Although I was always surrounded by religious people, I never felt that pressure. I can relate to your story on how you had to rebuild yourself. As I play guitar and bass, you have the love for music in common with me. Also, that I'm quite reserved and I also avoid heated discussions. I select people for my life based on what they are. Black, white or red with yellow dots doesn't matter at all. To finish up, I liked your story, if you like to share ideas and experiences, it's a great place here.

Thanks. Good to hear from another musician. But yeah. It's been a hard journey. I'm just hoping and trying to be optimistic that my situation will get better with time. Honestly, I feel I lost a lot of my drive for music when I had to start over. The whole process really did break me. I consider myself fortunate to have found a way to move forward, but there are still broken parts inside of me that are just going to take time to heal.

@MusicManDre, I fully understand you. I'm going through a rebuilding phase myself. It always takes loads of energy. I had to take a break from dancing tango for over a year. It's going to be worth it in the end.

@MusicManDre Do not let your change of direction shut down your musical abilities and interest. You can still find that outlet.

@DenoPenno I'm trying not to. The transition really took its toll on me. I was self-employed full-time until about a year ago. I had to get a regular job to make sure bills got paid. Whereas, I was used to having a flexible schedule. Now, I work 9 hour shifts 4 days a week. It's not bad, because I like the job and I have Fri-Sun off, but it's still a big adjustment for me after working in music for myself for close to 20 years.

@Paddypereira Thanks for the encouragement.

@MusicManDre, you're welcome. We all gain more if we support each other. There are good people here. You'll always find your way. Get in touch if you need to.

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Welcome aboard! We are happy to have you. There are lots of people who have similar experiences to yours. I rebelled from the start. When my grandfather introduced my eight-year-old-self to his favorite priest, I asked if he had ever performed an exorcist. I guess, not until that moment.

Wish I had your ability to sing! That must be fabulous!

I suspect some of my black friends have their doubts on Christianity. They just don't talk about it. A lot of my friends feel differently about politics, religion, etc. We just talk about something else and change the subject. We don't try to change each other. If your real-life friends can't do that for you, it's probably not going to work out.

Well, actually, I don't really sing much anymore...lol I mainly play piano and compose music. I guess I can still hold a note if I practice...lol

As far as real-life friends go, that is complex. I would kind of say I don't really have much of any friends in my area. Maybe a couple, but not on a seriously deep level. The false sense of security in church weeded out people I thought were friends with 'me'. But, it seems as though a lot of people could only see me as a Christian and couldn't show me the respect I deserved just as a human being. The whole process was humbling. But I just take it one day at a time.

@MusicManDre I'd say meet some new people who share the same interests you do outside of church. I bet people need piano players at weddings and some bistros and places like that. I can see the drinking scene not being appealing, maybe join book clubs or art clubs or board game clubs. I came out of my shell and made a lot of cool new friends at work.

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