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What do you see as being the best approaches to normalizing agnostism, atheism etc?

DavidLaDeau 8 Jan 18
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Normalize...

As compared to what or who exactly???

Words like that applied across populations give me the heebie-jeebies. I don't care the stated purpose, goal or politics (left or right, up or down) - the moment someone starts to talk about "normalizing" a group, bad things are afoot.

In this context it simply means to make commonly accepted.

@DavidLaDeau -

OK. So, with great sardonic tone...

I am very glad that it was you who enabled yourself to define the context.

What if I disagree?

Is it up to you to accept or decline? Then what? Draw lines? Us v Them?

See where I'm going with this....

Any attempt to normalize this Cattus will end in a fight.

Lots of people have tried to heterodyne society at large. And every single one of them had the best of all intentions. No thanks.

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Normalized? Or eraticated by knowledge? If everyone knew taco God existed atheism and agnosticism wouldn't exist except for uneducated youngsters, babies and such.

Word Level 8 Jan 18, 2020

@JohnnyQB If 1000 scientists that had each already eaten at least 1 taco in their life were to build a space ship, it could be said Taco God build a space ship. Taco God is any number of those whom has eaten at least one taco. Like the word deity, Taco God can represent many. Deity is singular or plural, so is this label, Taco God.

@JohnnyQB what ever any person or persons that has eat a taco can do.

@JohnnyQB They might not be your God but that does not mean they are not a God.

@JohnnyQB ... adored or admired, influential person... those are YOUR attributes, qualities and definations for a God thingie. Your defination of a God thingie may very well be non-existent.

@JohnnyQB notice picture. Daniel Boone and Kit Carson as real people are recognized as deity. People are recognized as gods. People exist, people recognized as gods exist as they are recognized. Atheism illogical because it is approved and recognized that real existance gods really exist.

@JohnnyQB The criteria for a God is well established. Interested in you response to this:

How atheism is illogical. Any true student of biblical text and one that studies and knows what is written as to what Jesus said knows this much:

3 different references that people are Gods. With out disputing truth or fiction of Jesus character, it is written that Jesus style God argued that people are Gods.
Isaiah 41:23 Shew the things that are to come hereafter, that we may know that ye are gods: yea, do good, or do evil, that we may be dismayed, and behold it together.
Psalms 82:6 I have said, Ye are gods; and all of you are children of the most High.
John 10:34 Jesus answered them, Is it not written in your law, I said, Ye are gods?

Do you agree with what is written as to Jesus saying people are Gods?

Although it is impossible to obtain exact figures, there is little doubt that the Bible is the world's best-selling and most widely distributed book. A survey by the Bible Society concluded that around 2.5 billion copies were printed between 1815 and 1975, but more recent estimates put the number at more than 5 billion. From: [guinnessworldrecords.com]

The biblical text is record holding most copied book of it's kind. Biblical text has been peer reviewed for 1000s of years. It has critics but overwhelming acceptance that supports Jesus's statement that people are Gods.

Gods exist because people are accepted to be gods, atheism illogical.

It is not necessary or required to prove any other style of God, only one style of God is required to prove atheism illogical.

Willy wanka style god, Harry Potter style God, Zues style God, Medusa style God: what ever, none of these are required to be proven to show and prove atheism illogical. Atheism by basic definition is that NO God(s) exist. Proof and acceptance of just 1 style god proves atheism wrong or illogical.

As explained below, people are Gods. Jesus, lord of host most High lucipher the devil,  is of the Angelic host. People-Gods could decide to end Christianity. Angel worship isn't recommended.  No wonder Jesus has showed back up. 

God defined as a word of open definition and usage, in that any person could give any usage or define it in any way, whether logical, provable, real, surreal or not. 

There are some things labeled by this word that have more popularity than others. There are groups of people that give a certain definition to this word that the agree on and follow for that group. There are those that would say there is nothing in existence that this word would properly label. 

There are those that do not have evidence for a reason to label anything with this word. There are those that could never know what to label with this word.

A very uncommon word for how it is used comes from Germanic origin of meaning to call or invoke and now in fact exist as a word in English spelt with the letters G, O, and D. 

I created Taco God. Taco God is real. Taco God is a person. Any person that has eaten a taco is a Taco God. Tacos are real, people are real and people really eat tacos.

Taco God is not evidence for ANY OTHER GOD but it is in fact A God. And it only takes one God to give evidence that atheism is illogical by defination. Because atheism by defination says: no gods exist. Taco God is proven to exist.

Taco God is backed by peer reviewed text that has been peer reviewed for 1000s of years and the text is the most copied world record holding text of its kind. Taco God is real and really exist. Atheism Illogical.

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Define what you mean by normalizing? I think I know, but prefer that my understanding is consistent with the intent of your question.

I mean it in the way that it is accepted as a normal understanding that should not be hated as "wrong beliefs" and thus causeing discrimination, hate or shunning.

As in normal people may or may not like football or religion.

@DavidLaDeau Australian government to re-introduce bill to allow discrimination against others not of the same belief:

[mobile.abc.net.au]

Effectively this will not only continue discrimination by protestants against Catholics but also legalise discrimination against atheists and agnostics.

@FrayedBear I would ask why but I know. It is sad. I hope it does not go through. In the U.S. it would very likely go through in todays United States of Trump.

@DavidLaDeau they may even follow the Australian practice as has occurred with offshore inhumane concentration camps for refugees.

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