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You can go back in time to grab any person and nominate them for president. Who are you choosing and why?

Jinx5555555 6 Feb 9
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Diogenes, because maybe he could get an honest cabinet.

Interesting you should pick him. There were actually 2 of them. While in the military I was stationed in N. Turkey at a soviet monitoring site known as Diogenes station. He was the first and is known as the father of Cynic Philosophy. [ancient.eu]

@JackPedigo That is the one I was thinking of.

@Organist1 Now you got me to thinking (and looking the other one up). The other Diogenes is from 3rd century ACE. I hadn't studied his philosophy but he seems the most well known among philosophers. Our Diogenes was not popular and got kicked out of town (people didn't like him telling them they should live in a barrel like a dog) and moved to Athens so the two get confused. He was some 500 years earlier than the other one. I always focused on the cynic philosophy and missed the other part. Thanks for the information.

@JackPedigo Thank you! You certainly know a lot about these two philosophers.

@Organist1 No, thank you for showing me I really did not know as much as I thought. The day after this conversation I saw another saying by this philosopher I had not heard (now I can't find it but will get back when I do). After the military his name came up (don't remember the circumstances) and I got interested in the idea of rejecting one's society as a way to true meaning. Later, one John Dominic Crossan was on NPR talking about some of his books and he mentioned the several important people (John the Baptist, Francis of Assisi and even Jesus) were followers of Diognese and his cynic philosophy. I knew little of the Greek Diogenes who lived some 500 years later.
BTW, again after our talk on politics and tRumps chances I read a part of the new "Atlantic." [theatlantic.com]
"As of early fall, the president’s net approval rating was deep underwater in the three states decisive to his Electoral College victory in 2016: negative eight points in Pennsylvania, negative 10 points in Michigan, and negative 11 points in Wisconsin." and "His campaign seems to accept that he will almost certainly lose the popular vote again, and probably by an even bigger margin than in 2016." finally "If Trump loses, a cloud will lift from American politics. But the circumstances that produced him will not vanish—and the changes that he wrought will outlast him. Like Lewis Carroll’s Cheshire cat, when Donald Trump fades from the scene, his teeth will linger after him—but unlike the cat’s, those teeth will not be smiling. They will bite and draw blood for years to come." It's not too long an article but worth reading.

@JackPedigo Yes, that article is dead on. In the same way the Civil War cast a shadow over this country, tRump's stain will linger for generations.

@Organist1 I remember after 911 there was a detailed 4 part series on the incident and it's aftermath. The author got into places others couldn't and it was amazing piece. Before W invaded Iraq there was a long article of what to expect. Like you said, dead on.

Funny, this morning I was rushed (had to catch a ferry for 'America" ) and couldn't find the Diogenes quote. There it was in the first place I looked. The article was on Cosmocracy and the quote was "I am not an Athenian or a Greek, but a citizen of the world." Diogenes 412-323 BCE.

@JackPedigo What an interesting quote from so long ago!

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Harry Truman.
Because he represented the people And took responsibility for his actions.

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Henry David Thoreau, the best qualification for any job is having a proper sense of its worth.

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Colin Powell instead of GW Bush.

We’d have had peace, prosperity and unity instead of endless wars and astronomical debt.

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Obama!

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William Wallace. He wouldn’t compromise regardless of being hung drawn and quartered.

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