When it comes to relationships I think of it like applying for a job, to be my partner I have a list of acceptance criteria and exclusion criteria. Of course, I'm not perfect and no-one ever ticks all the boxes but it helps me weed out the non-starters quickly so that I don't waste my and their time. When I'm talking to women who've had a rough time I ask them what they're looking for in a partner and I generally get only vague answers so I suggest they do something similar. If you haven't thought about what to look for, or look out for, it's easy to get caught up by just a friendly face, or someone who might be nice, but not for you. Just one example is that I know I need someone who is strong, intelligent and not submissive. Is it just me, or are there others who have thought about these criteria and what criteria do you use? I thought about this in response to the post by Yoshigata, but thought it better as a post than a comment.
I don't have a list of criteria. It will all come down to chemistry in the end.
Of course there are certain things that make useful filters, but those are usually obvious. For instance, Trump supporters need not apply.
It's been years since I made a dating profile, but as I remember, I did mention I was seeking someone who is honest, honorable and would be on my side. (To counteract my experience with the opposite.) I'm sure I mentioned that I'm honest, loyal, ethical and enjoy thoughtful conversations.
These qualities were in addition to some physical desires for keeping healthy and fit with shared activities and reasonably smart eating.
I've been thinking of, maybe, posting my profile here and asking for feedback. Even on the sites which indicate when someone has looked at my profile, I get lots of looks but no likes and no responses.
Why don't you ask your friends for this feedback instead? They know you more intimately than you can describe and your description is limited by your insight into yourself and we are all limited in that area.
@Cyklone I don't have any friends who are on dating sites. They wouldn't know. They're contaminated with prior knowledge.
@BitFlipper bugger! There are sites around which give instruction on how to write a good profile. Or you could do like me and write what I feel and then don't give a flying f##k about likes and responses.
@Cyklone I put a lot of thought into mine, and I'm actually a good writer. I'm not good at deception, and I think that's what's missing.
@BitFlipper I don't think that deception is a good way to start any relationship, but I notice that you point out your flaws in your profile whereas most people emphasise their assets.
@Cyklone it would be deceptive to invent assets
@BitFlipper perhaps you misunderstood me as I didn't suggest that you invent assets. It's just that I'm sure there are a lot of nice things about you that you could talk about that don't include "I just live with my cats" or qualifiers such as "but I'm not sophisticated socially". I 'm not suggesting you lie or exaggerate but if you can't be and see more positive about yourself then how are others likely to see the nicer things about you?
@Cyklone I get what you mean. But I think some embellishment would be necessary.
...so I suggest they do something similar. and I bet they flee gleefully.
I find posts like this quite humorous, the brain thinking it can know and control what the heart wants. IMO lists of hard exclusions over 3 items long is just a perpetual excuse not to have a date for any given time.
I didn't list the exclusion criteria which would be things like a history of violence or drug abuse, but I find it interesting when people judge others by their own limitations. So revealing.
I avoid making the assumption that because I can't then other's can't but I do assume that if I can then others are capable. We all make more complex assessments than these on a daily basis: the pragmatics of speech, the intracacies of movement, even the change in pupil size and who hasn't stopped and thought about what makes another person attractive to us? This is just nothing more than organising our assessment in order to gain some control over our feelings. Otherwise we become victim to our emotions, always attracted to the violent male or the shallow woman etc.
@Cyklone nice tapdance/self justification, but I still think you're wrong. Why? Because when my partner and I met we both had our little lists of must have/have not's and tossed them out the window. Had either of us stuck to what we thought we wanted, after both of us had honed our lists over decades, neither one of us would be in the relationship - we just bought a house, btw, and are currently moving into it - that we're in now.
So you keep on pushing your advise - btw, are you single? - and I'll keep on pushing mine.
I can prove my way works. You?
@1of5 I'm a mental health professional regularly working with survivors of bad relationships. Teaching people to be more discerning in their relationships is a part of helping them break the cycle, so yes I can show that what I say works. Again though you are making the error of thinking that what is true for you is true for all. Congratulations on having a successful relationship but it was using this technique which allowed me to break away from destructive relationships and form more rewarding ones. Interesting that you ask if I'm single. I'm not into ad hominem argument, but it is a non sequitor to conclude that my current relationship status, which you can see from my profile, reflects my knowledge of relationships, especially when you don't know the circumstances of that occuring. Circumstances that I have no interest in sharing on an open forum.
Yeah, I think most of us have that list of requirements and exclusions. For me I need an age-appropriate lady who is Liberal-minded (sharing & caring for others not as fortunate), educated, respectful of all creatures including humans, environmentally-oriented, not strictly a city-gal, a dog-lover, non-smoker, has taken good care of mind and body and still looking forward to intimacy with her man. No Trumpers, of course, but I've successfully co-existed with religious types as long as we've left the subject out of our relationship. Simple... there just are none like that in this solar system. I'm OK with my dogs as companions for now.
Good list. I hope you find her and I know a few women like that, just nowhere near you.
As I wrote in my profile:
If you are a Trump supporter, hit the back button NOW.
I'm seeking an athletic, intelligent man with a great sense of humor who treats me with respect and kindness. Shared recreational activities are a bonding experience for couples. That's why I want a man who also loves hiking.
Although I'm a great cook, I'm not willing to do all of the meal planning, preparation and cooking. Everyone loves the magic words: "Dinner is served."
Loving relationships work best when we add a certain spirit, an attitude of goodwill. I wouldn't know a grudge if it mugged me. I miss the tender touch, laughter, conversation, intimacy, teamwork and fun of a committed, loving relationship.
And I think that's a great start but I'm more specific, looking for things like:honesty integrity, loving, caring,loyalty, openness, intelligent, sensuality, sensitivity positiveness and strength. And although you might say that those things go without saying, I've found that if you don't look you can easily overlook. And then ask, how do I know if those things are there? What will I see in this person which will tell me they exist because many people are capable are putting up a front for months? One useful characteristic of people is that they normally mix with people of similar character, so if you don't like his/her friends you are probably missing something.
Every man says he's honest and a "good guy." It takes time to evaluate a person's character.
Listing screening criteria is a waste of time. Most men just look at my photos and don't read my profile.
"I love hiking!" men say on the phone. Turns out they haven't hiked since their 20s or in the Army at age 18.
With online dating, 80% of people post old photos and lie about their age, weight, fitness, height (short guys), profession, marital status, etc.
I feel surprised when a man looks like his photos.
@LiterateHiker then I hope you'd be pleasantly surprised by my photo; I took it for this site. The last time I we t hiking was in Sept last year when I started on a 10 day hike and had to turn back on the second day because I tore a muscle in my calf. Getting older can be a bitch sometimes. I like long distance hiking where I am completely self reliant. And I wholeheartedly agree that it takes time to evaluate a person's character but it can be a bit easier and faster to eliminate the non-starters if we do that in a structured way