Okay I get the arguments against racist policies, but what's better- stop and frisk or a much more laid back approach to crime and then you get Chiraq level results? Please tell me how inner city crime gets fixed. Because it needs to get fixed yesterday.

Nice graph, btw.

@Flowerwall Glad you like the graph. Read about stop and frisk and you won’t think it’s a viable approach. [thenorthstar.com]

@Bobbyzen Okay, here's one for you to read. [motherjones.com]

@Flowerwall Actually, the article questions the study’s conclusion the stop-and-frisk led to a drop in gun violence. From the article;

“In late 2015, the Chicago Police Department reached an agreement to drastically cut back its use of stop-and-frisk, which has led some to call the murder epidemic a result of the “ACLU effect.” Is that fair?“

“I dunno. We’ve got broken windows. We’ve got community policing. We’ve got stop-and-frisk. We’ve got targeted drug raids. We’ve got the Ferguson effect. And now we’ve got the ACLU effect. We have a long history of trying to blame crime rates on specific police tactics—or the lack of them—and in the long run they never seem to hold up. In the case of Chicago, we’ve got one data point, namely that homicides started to increase at the same time that stop-and-frisk ended. Despite the length of this latest paper, that’s really all the authors have—and even that’s belied by the fact that murder rates had already increased 15 percent the year before. Maybe Cassell and Fowles are right, but I’d keep an open mind about this until and unless we get a whole lot more evidence.”

@Bobbyzen I DID read the article, but as it states at the end I am keeping an open mind. I don't immediately label police practice as racist unless it is clear it IS. And as article points out Chicago is not New York. Your article states stop and frisk was horrible PTSD inducing, and I understand, NOT GOOD, but what about the crime itself? I think that produces PTSD also when people don't feel safe because police are NOT policing enough, when people are living in constant possibility of violence or have lost family or friends. From what I hear it creates a huge disconnect between community members and the people meant to protect them. I am getting off topic somewhat. This is about Bloomberg and New York, though comparisons to Chicago are useful. If you read up on Chicago, I think the murder rate is 4x higher than New York.

@Bobbyzen I watched a video showing exactly what Bloomberg said. I can find and repost if anyone is interested. Also found this video.

Sadly, I agree with you that the DNC’s focus is keeping Bernie from the top of the ticket. And not for their stated reasons that “he can’t win” and “he would hurt down-ticket candidates” for the House & Senate. The Republican establishment had the same arguments against Trump, and guess what...? If Bernie is as popular with the wide and diverse electorate as the Iowa, NH and Nevada results indicate—to say nothing of the size of his rallies—voters who select Bernie at the ballot box will overwhelmingly select the down-ticket Democrats.

@Bierbasstard because that's time they need to spend fundraising and pressing flesh. Often they'll just say "the details or answer is already on my website", even when it isn't.