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AustinSkepticus 7 Mar 30
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The intention behind the coexist bumper sticker is a good one but perhaps a little naive.

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First take it's a false meme, true islam has nothing but respect for Christ, anytime a devout muslim says the name Christ he follows it with "peace be on him, islam recognizes 5 prophets, Abraham, Ismael, Isaac, Jesus and Mohammad, Mohammad says in the koran that Jesus will sit at the right hand of god and be the lamb that passes judgement on man kind, Taoism is not a religion it is a quest too be one with yourself and the universe you live in, this is just propaganda from the plutocracy that wants to keep people divided.

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No, I don't like it when I see it because I think its impossible.

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Sad but true. The old "my god is better than your god." bullshit.

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An absolutely key tenet of every religion is that they are the only true religion and all others are frauds. So how can they truly coexist without strife?

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Wow...disagree in so many ways. Being a Non-believer doesn't equate to arrogance, prejudice, assumptions and sweeping generalizations.
BTW, Jews in the first few centuries CE were the leaders of Christianity. Pagans, Jews, Christians all wandered in and out of one anothers' place of worship, sharing ideas. Constantine came along and changed all that with his divide and conquer mentality. I know a fair number of religious today, Christians and Jews who have an openness of heart and mind.

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Why those confusing symbols. Can't they write clearly what they want to say? Sorry, it's not important enough for me to put effort in translating it myself to a readable text.

Gert Level 7 Mar 30, 2018
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Its all a pile of crap

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Spot on I like the use of animation too

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No. It's dogma. I find the interpretations to be disingenuously narrow.

I don't read the central buzzword-cum-statent as a declarative, as in, "These systems can/should/do coexist."

I read it as an imperative, as in, "Hey, everybody! Sort your shit out so we can all get along with each other! And if that means changing some of your beliefs, then do it !"

Who says Christianity/Judaism/Islam can't evolve--into something that doesn't lay claim to "the one true way"? Dogma. Dogma says that. Inside and outside of the systems in question. (To wit: the above)

Who says we can't or shouldn't call out religions for their unskillful views and challenge them to change? Cowards, and jaded cynics.

This is a longview thing--changing cultures, over generations. I don't expect it to be solved in a day. But digging in to shitty ideologically separatist trenches today sure isn't going to help the long game.

ooh, stinkeye_a! I like the way you think

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Absolutely, so I stole a copy. Thanks!

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The Abrahamic Faiths are especially exclusionary to all other religions. Sometimes forcefully and violently so.

yikes. Is the translation of 'Abrahamic Faiths' Judaism? Say what you mean, man, cause I don't think people understand the definitions they use
this came from wiki, [en.wikipedia.org]: Christianity, Islam, and Judaism are the Abrahamic religions with the greatest numbers of adherents.[4][5][6] Abrahamic religions with fewer adherents include the faiths descended from Yazdânism (the Yezidi, Yarsani and Alevi faiths), Samaritanism,[7] the Druze faith (often classified as a branch of Isma'ili Shi'i Islam),[8] Bábism,[9][self-published source] the Bahá'í Faith and Rastafari.[10][11]
Druze are Jews mixed with pagan...so, duh???

@crazycurlz
I said exactly what I meant. "Abrahamic Faiths" refers to all the religions that evolved from the house religion and god of Abraham.There are thousands of them, with more being created all the time.

@Reignmond I take offense by the terminology and your statement. But, in truth, its somewhat vague, really. Constantine, 3rd c, was (so far as I can tell) pagan until he adopted Christianity as a vehicle to solidify power. Paganism is not Abrahamic and yet, there he was, a real SOB. I doubt that force and violence evolved only with the 'Abrahamic religions' which is what you seem to be implying. Narrowing the view on western religion negates world history. The world and its history is RICH with force and violence. Nonbelievers can't separate themselves from the species. And these behaviors shouldn't just fall on the backs of Abrahamic religions.

@crazycurlz
Take offense as you wish, but it will not change the history, some of which is detailed in the bible itself.

@Reignmond first of all, you can't have it both ways: the bible as a fairytale and the bible as a historical document. So, I hope as an atheist you are clear on where you stand regarding the bible as a historical document
my original point is it's not just the 'abrahamic religions' that are guilty of force and violence. AS A SPECIES, humans are capable of terrible bloodshed. The Vikings were not 'Abrahamic', there were violent American Indian tribes and in South America too. I'm sure that a closer look at Eastern peoples would show the same lust for bloodletting.
I don't fully understand your original comment but it does seem to be a lazy commitment to spreading propaganda. Until we all acknowledge that the human species as a whole needs to look at its history, we get no where. Bloodletting didn't start with 'Abrahamic' religions.

@crazycurlz
Many a fairy tale has some truth in it, not at all uncommon. The bible clearly tells of God's immorality, and even if it is not true, the Abrahamic Faith as a whole wishes to show it as true.

While what you say of us as a species is certainly true, we do have a violent tendency, it is the Abrahamic Faiths that are -- I reiterate -- especially forcefully and violently exclusive of not just all other faiths, but even of its very own religious kin. Sure, sometimes recently, they will band together for s little bit, but that is not the norm. The religious wars of Europe, which caused many to flee to the New World, is a good example. It would be "imaginative" to read my post as 'the Abrahamic Faiths created violence'. That said, they did justify it as "God's Will" in word and print.

As for my "Viking" and Native ancestors (I am part Danish and Haudenosaunee, along with a bunch else), they were indeed violent at times (as were pretty much all my other ancestors), but they did not fight because of religion -- which is the topic. [Though, my one Native ancestors, Red Jacket, certainly had no love of Christians. Another, Handsome Lake, created a Native religion styled after Protestantism.]

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We can strive for that idea. Yes I agree, I even have a T- shirt with that on it.

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In the words of Newt, from Aliens : " ay-firmative !"

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I do. Fortunately, the absolute zealots in any religion are the minority.

Deb57 Level 8 Mar 30, 2018

Fortunately, the zealots amongst the nonbelievers are the minority, too 🙂

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Yes, I can get along with anybody with the intention of wanting to get along. Always have.

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I know of no tenet in Judaism that teaches destruction of other people or religions.

I don't either.

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Don't know; it gave me a headache trying to read it.

marga Level 7 Mar 30, 2018
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Pretty much yup

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