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Hey everyone, I'd love to get your opinion here.

My genes say I am 100% Askenazi Jew.

Question: Am I white?

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DavidSilverman 5 Apr 2
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If you were not white, you would soon find out the answer.

Oh, my! So succinct, and so true.

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Who cares

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This is a social question, not a genetic question.

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Is this a question to level faster?
I truly dislike the whole color thing. I'm Brazilian with all my descendants from Europe- mainly Germany, Italy and some lost in Portugal, Spain, France and Austria.
When I say I am Brazilian, people label me as "not white".... lol
All about labels...

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Face-to-face, he better have a weapon. "I hate Illinois Nazis."

@Beowulfsfriend I disapprove of Nazis anywhere.

@BestWithoutGods I do too. Just a quote from an old film.

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Who cares? Unless you're looking for an answer that gives you superior status which is perhaps in your head already. We're all human beings. That matters most to me than to figure our your bronze-ness or your white-ness!

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All, All of us, have DNA of the first people to inhabit the Earth. They originated in a part of South Africa, were black, and we all have them as ancestors. The genome project hosted by National Geographic, and read Spencer Wells.

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I think none of us are 100% anything except human.

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And we should care because?

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Your genes cannot indicate you are 100% Askinazi Jew. All humans have a common gene associated with Africa, where the evolution of Neanderthals began. Strange question. Why does it matter?

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Do you FEEL white today? Perhaps you are racially fluid... 😈

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Nonsense. Nobody is 100 per cent of X.
All people of European descent have 2-3 per cent Neanderthal genes.
And about 8 % of your genome stems from ancient viruses.

And a little bit from dandelions.

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We are all fucking imbreed!!!

Their are no pure anything on this planet!!!

Everything is Tainted on this planet!!!

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Why does it matter?

By the way @DavidSilverman are you sure you mean Askenazi? Askenazi is a family name from Northern Europe, Ashkenazi were and are a Yiddish speaking people originating from what today is known as Germany whose descendants make up the vast majority of today's Hebrew peoples.

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Does it really matter to you?

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What color is your skin? I have white skin mottled by freckles. Am I white or dappled?

Not hitting on you, but I would just say Pretty.

@dalefvictor Thanks!

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Are you purple?

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Race is a silly construct.

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I have wondered since childhood why people who are white sit in the sun or pay to go under lights to get a tan. This makes no sense.

In days gone by, upper class women took great care not to tan--and not because they realized that sun aged their skin. One was to avoid looking like dark skinned people and the other was because poor women tanned because they had to work in the sun.

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There are no races and white is at best a sociological category. Caucasian is also consistently misused.

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I checked "white" because that is what I think current society indicates. But there are too many complications here. The term "Jewish race" confuses because some people only see race as color and so "Jewish", which is a different term than "white" leads them to think someone of the "Jewish race" is not "white". I realize that you did not use the term race, but "white" is a term to describe race.

After all that, I will say that I think it matters less about what arbitrary color category one belongs in and more about what tribe to which one belongs. Don't get me started on the ridiculousness of the continued use of an outdated notion of race.

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My mom was a Great Dane, and my dad was a Chihiuahua.
He stood on a chair.

Yep, I can see your mom in your bone structure.

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BTW, Askhenazis only have about 3% of the genes of the ancient Jews. Most are descended from the Khazars, a nation in the Caucasus that converted en mass to Judaism. That's most likely why you are white.

That is a talking point by antisemitic groups so you shouldn't espouse it. European Jews are white. Although I reject everything about the Jewish religion I don't reject people and I don't consider Jews a race.

The Khazar hypothesis of Ashkenazi ancestry, often called the "Khazar myth" by its critics,[1]: 369[2]: VIII[3] is the hypothesis that Ashkenazi Jews are in large part descended from the Khazars, a multi-ethnic conglomerate of Turkic peoples who formed a semi-nomadic Khanate in and around the northern and central Caucasus and Pontic-Caspian steppe. The hypothesis draws on some medieval sources such as the Khazar Correspondence, according to which at some point in the 8th–9th centuries, the ruling elite of the Khazars was said by Judah Halevi and Abraham ibn Daud to have converted to Rabbinic Judaism.[4] The scope of the conversion within the Khazar Khanate remains uncertain: the evidence used to tie the Ashkenazi communities to the Khazars is meager and subject to conflicting interpretations.[5][6]

Genetic studies on Jews have found no substantive evidence of a Khazar origin among Ashkenazi Jews, but have found evidence they have mixed Near Eastern/Mediterranean and Southern European origins.[7][6][8] As per Wikipedia.

@BirdMan1 Thanks for this added analysis. One implication is that the claim of a "return" to Palestine is based on a myth.

@barjoe The Khazar descent was popularized by Arthur Koestler, a famous Jewish writer. Just because anti-Semites have taken it up doesn't make it invalid. [amazon.com]

@Krish55 I know. The Thirteenth Tribe, written beginning of the 20th century. Yes the fact that Nazis take up this theory does make it invalid. If you choose to justify using it because Koestler was a Jew. Go ahead. It's a white supremacist talking point. I just want to inform others who read of that fact. You have every right to promote this if you like.

@barjoe How did this become a white supremacist talking point? The Khazar lineage claims European Jews are not Semitic. Doesn't this then take away any basis for the supremacist anti-Semitic hatred of Jews? Jews would then be seen as just as any other Europeans from the Caucasus area. Seriously, I really don't understand how the Khazar lineage supports Aryan supremacy.

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