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I realize this is trivial, but does anyone else have a problem when they see, "Jesus is Risen?" I mean, Jesus is rising, or Jesus has risen, or even Jesus was raised, but "Jesus is risen" is just bad grammar! And what does it mean? I was taught that he was divine and rose himself from the dead. If he "is risen," doesn't that mean something raised him? It's all very confusing!

Floriduhartist 5 Apr 21
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"In older English, forms of the verb "to be" rather than forms of "to have" are used if the verb is a verb of motion. Hence, he is risen. This behavior can be traced back to German, the principal ancestor of English grammar." For example "to eat" is not a verb of motion while "to go" is a verb of motion." In German, "Er hat gegessen" (he has eaten) uses the verb "to have". "He has gone" in German is "Er ist gegangen" using the verb "to be" in the "is" form.
We see this same thing reflected in older and now archaic English.

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Another term that is confusing is Jesus Christ. Christ was not a last name otherwise his parents would be Joseph and Mary Christ. Christ is a title and should be written Jesus THE Christ.

evolution of words thru translation? My thoughts on this may be a little vague but I think I am rather close in my recollection of what I remember. Christ comes from christos( if i am spelling that correctly) What they were translating was to say Jesus was annointed. Annointed as in what is done if something like oil were to be poured over someone's heard. There is the deeper meanings for why someone would be annointed but to say Jesus was the annointed is saying he was the Chosen one and in the tradition for someone that is chosen for something they would pour oil on their head like as a sign or a ritual.

@Word A lot of things have changed through time. I doubt people even had last names then and were referred to as where they were from. Jesus of Nazareth for example. My late partner was from Iran and their last names also had a part of where they were born. Her last name was Baharloo but she was also called Baharloo Horre (the town her father came from).

One thing I learned in art history was that all the medieval art depicted the time of the Christ as being one of horses, chainmail shirts and armor along with castles. People often were born, lived and died with no perceptible change and the people all thought everything had been and will forever remain the same. We also are guilty of this false view of the past. We assume everyone has been and will be literate. There were no school, few teachers and it was very difficult to write things down as there was nor paper. Only scribes were trained and did writing and many leaders were illiterate. The supposed Jesus and all his followers were totally illiterate. Tell that to some Christians and see how they react (not well).

@JackPedigo the part about illeriate disciples is apart of argument that says the new testiment is rather legitimate form aspect of being written by different people. I had come across something for example that Luke was an educated Doctor not of the 12 disciples that his greek writing was better greek grammer that the other gospels. Some of the disciples may of been teen age fishermen that would of been considered illiterate and their writtings written later in their life when memory fades and not still in direct contact with the other disciples causing for some of the differences in stories or contradictions.

If only one person wrote the biblical text it would be of a genius to make these things appear this way.

@Word Non of the disciples wrote anything. In the Catholic bible all the quotes are stated as "according to" not written by. The original language of Jesus and the disciples was Aramaic. It was then translated into Hebrew and then Greek and Latin and now the vernacular. Also the first writing did not appear until long after all the original gag was dead. As you may also know the writing often contradict one another. Even the symbol of the cross did not appear until the 3rd century. Historians and experts have been arguing about some details for years.

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I think it is meant to give impression that the risen Jesus of 2020 odd years ago, is still risen today, just waiting for the nod from his old dad to come on down and start the tribulation.
Utter BS, but then what do you expect from the religious.

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The idea that the King James version is 'good/correct' (for some definitions of) is, I think, a false premise to begin with. The original texts (what little has been found) was in Greek/Coptic/Hebrew. Copies of Copies, errors, omissions, intent, etc. should not be accepted. Read "Forged" by Bart Ehrman (or most any of his books)

[bartdehrman.com]

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Gotta rub one out bud.

Sorry.

That's like saying ''Willy'' is risen. 🙂...

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