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"Growing salmon and leafy greens in Wisconsin and in the dead of winter"

Fred_Snerd 8 July 25
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Not big on fish farming.

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@Fred_Snerd No, but I understood it to be an industry problem from the video.

But here is my real problem with fish farming, quality of life.

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@Fred_Snerd The only issue I saw in their vid was how they are housed. They did not discuss what they are fed or how they are slaughtered.

@Fred_Snerd No, I think the problems are inherent to aquaculture generally, not specific to Superior Fresh.

@Fred_Snerd I took a few minutes to reacquaint myself with the problems with aquaculture not that specific company.

@Fred_Snerd I am concerned about fish farming on the basis of what is generally known about their operations. Each of those concerns may not apply equally or at all to every aquafarm. That would be for an expert or someone employed in the industry to determine. I am not employed in that industry and I can't be an expert in every field. I do not like the fish living their two years of life living in those barren and relatively small tanks, seemingly an impoverished life compared to a natural environment.

@Fred_Snerd In assuming the care of living creatures with feelings, aquaculture should have to provide humane living conditions. My definition of that would be safe conditions that resemble a natural environment.

Cat food has an expiry date.

@Fred_Snerd Oh good, I was afraid you went away mad. I am not trying to antagonize you, I just believe that the well-being of all living, feelings creatures is more important than monetary profit and therefore shouldn't be sacrificed for it.

To answer your question: Yes, but I also recognize it as a naturally-occurring process as part of the food chain which can't be controlled.

@Fred_Snerd I've opposed fishing for decades but as usual, I am in the minority and I can't tell others what to do. Well I can, but it doesn't work.

Cats are obligate carnivores, eating meat is essential to their health, unfortunately.

@Fred_Snerd There's probably some variance depending upon the methods used, but the two methods seem roughly equivalent to me.

@Fred_Snerd I think we are obligated to feed a species that we domesticated.

@Fred_Snerd In the most humane ways possible.

@Fred_Snerd That is why the development of expertise is critical to a civilized society. I can't be an expert in every field so I rely on the opinions of credible experts in fields other than my own. There are surely greater and lesser humane ways of raising and harvesting animal flesh and I think those profiting from doing so should be responsible for financing the independent development of that expertise and be required to abide by it.

@TheInterlooper Vermiculture sounds promising but overcrowding alone can cause health problems for the fish. Quality of life remains an issue as does slaughter.

I am aware that not very many people are concerned with the quality of life of fish but that doesn't diminish how I feel about it.

@TheInterlooper One of the articles I posted above says "(s)laughter methods in the aquaculture industry are appalling" and goes on to give specifics even worse than what your cousin did. I have to limit how much I think about things like this because it is overwhelming.

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