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David Attenborough on 60 Minutes last night was very disturbing. He said that nearly 2/3 of all animal species are gone.

Question: How come none of the organized religions, the government or Big Business, never complains about human overpopulation?

Aristippus 6 Sep 28
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Was Attenborough saying that so many animal species are extinct as a result of human overpopulation?

I'm not sure, and can't check the program. To answer for him, "Why else?" The last major extinction was 65 million years ago and we're in the Anthropocene Extinction right now.

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They don't complain because they don't want to panic the masses.
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Some do complain about over population of humans...

Yes, but not nearly enough. We'll need an overwhelming majority before we'll see any meaningful changes.

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You are expecting them to be righteous?

I don't understand the word "righteous". Do you mean caring about the nonhuman life on the planet?

@Aristippus

Industry, Capitalists do what they must to make money and increase value to shareholders. Caring for the planet is not their top agenda.

Secondly know this very well... this clean environment obsession is only with the ultra left in rich countries. The large majority of the world struggles every day for food, water, medicine and just surviving. They don't care about about gas emission and methane etc. Most people don't even understand what you are talking about. The most they understand is bad drinking water and factory smoke. I have lived in 3rd world countries. Their top issues are all about making a living and surviving. They would not have time to listen to your talk on environment. If you arrange an event on the topic, only the elites, rich will show up. No middle class or poor would even care.

@St-Sinner Thanks for the reply. I take it what you're saying is that the lower classes care more about their own survival than the animals or nature itself. In my view, that's a rather shortsighted, selfish viewpoint -- because if the planet doesn't survive, nothing survives.

@Aristippus

It maybe short sighted to some in the world who live in a society that has resolved basic issues of water, sewage, electricity, food, and roof over your head. I am not even mentioning jobs, education and anything else. I will not even get into golf. These societies have time to mingle, meet for a coffee, discuss world issues, world peace, environment, fancy charity dinners in glamorous dresses, celebrity news etc. How are you going to tell people who have to go out in the open to defecate and do not have toilets - that they are short sighted?

The majority of the world is struggling for two meals a day. It is ridiculous to tell them how to think and consider environment of the world.

You tell me what you want them to do when they have these issues to struggle with daily:

  1. Food
  2. Water
  3. Electricity
  4. Cooking Gas
  5. Basic Roads
  6. Toilets
  7. Slavery
  8. Poverty
  9. Child Labor
  10. Rapes
  11. Corruption
  12. Exploitation, beating
  13. High crime

It suits people who have time and resources on their hands to worry about the world issues. Their issues are these:

  1. Environment
  2. Net neutrality
  3. Gender equality
  4. Gene Therapy
  5. Elder care
  6. Space satellites
  7. Driverless cars
  8. Electrical cars
  9. Drone licensing
  10. Free health care for all
  11. Social security for all

When did you worry about last time about not having a toilet at home or living around an open sewage?

@St-Sinner Yes, but it's the people in the second group that causing all the environmental problems. Take the destruction of the Great Barrier Reef due to oceanic acidity. This is a terrible crime against nature, as those tiny polyps are the only way the ocean can fight bacteria, Was it the pathetic African farmer or the middle-class industrialized businessman who has a penchant for pickup trucks and luxury SUVs.

@Aristippus

Help them solve their problems, not just throw money at governments. Otherwise just talk about environment as a top issue in your societies. It is not a world issue because it is not a priority for many many countries in the world. Many people do not even know what you mean by environment. They still do child marriages and children are sold there.

Do you know what tobacco and oil companies do when they set up factories in poor countries? They do not follow the rules locally of where they come from. They pollute, exploit and bribe authorities. Western societies have driven out tobacco companies but today, most of their profits come from poor countries.

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