So if you are Black or Mixed Race, or other Minority and you identify more with Republican you are actually a "white supremacist"? This is what you are saying " white people DO come in a range of colors."

Please do some research. People are in these groups that are not what you would think of as stricly European accestry, meaning Latino, Black, Asian, etc.

@Flowerwall My bad, I should have said no sane person of color could be a white supremacist. I think the Proud Boys are more about nationalism or something. Honestly I haven't researched them and the other groups. They do seem like they mostly enjoy being militant.

Okay, but you have latched on to ONE thing I said. Why were Black people the ONLY minority discussed at debate? Please tell me HOW this is a debate that is in service to ALL Americans when we have latched on to discussions of Blacks to the exclusion of all others. I mean we talked about blacks and white supremacists, that's it. I have heard constant talk about Blacks in media. What about everyone else? What about Hispanics? Asians? Native Americans? I can only take it as TRUE RACISM and minimization of people as what is occurring. Isn't it very inappropriate to NOT discuss entire HUGE SECTIONS of our population and put CONSTANT media focus on one? You don't see a problem with that?

I didn't grow up where you did. I grew up in the North. I did certainly see racism firsthand, but now? NEVER. You have to be careful you don't operate with assumptions based on long past experience. What was the most recent experience you personally witnessed and how long ago was it?

I will clarify. The most recent experience I had with racism was actually from a person of fairly dark skin himself, an Indian American, but racism was just one of many personal defects. So he's not fitting the mold of "white supremacist", and he himself probably had experienced some level of racism himself at some point due to being fairly dark comlected. This was years back though. Maybe 10. Also, I will add, he was not a natural born citizen, so the racism came with him from his own country and something he will need to unlearn here.

I also lived in Illinois and in Kansas for a a combined total of 22 years. I saw real and substantial racism in some communities in both states, More often than not, it was associated with right wing politics, particularly among those on the extreme reactionary right.

@wordywalt Oh yes IL certainly had racism in some places! But in recent times, I do think our society has vastly improved. I think this is why the current step backward I see this country taking right now really dusturbs me.

Also, don't forget former Pres. Obama is from Chicago, so it's not just all racism everywhere. Remember that.

Yes, dumded down, baseless name calling are counterproductive timewasters, imo. Tactics used by those who lack a fuller well thought out, REASONED arguement.

@Flowerwall Tactless name calling? How is pointing out that white nationalists are exactly that name calling? Who wants to argue with race mongers? Most of us want to get along. If it looks like a duck, swims like a duck and walks like a duck, it's a duck. I won't call you a name, but if you don't think antisemitism and racism against blacks exists, you're wrong. This seems like a sore spot for you. Have you been accused personally of being a racist or white supremacist?

@barjoe You want to know why? Because that is where we are at in this country. Alot of time what media is defining as "white supremacits" can include Black/Mixed Race people, so the term now means, basically, anyone who is not fitting into your box of political ideology. Sorry you do not own the word. Calling Black, Mixed Race people white supremacists is lunancy. Yes, I forgot to mention Jews as a minority group, apologies. What other whole cross sections of the US were left out of debate?

@Flowerwall I didn't ask you why. I asked: Have you been accused of being a white supremacist, a racist or an antisemite? Have you?

@barjoe You didn't ask, but I did just tell you. In answer to your Q, who knows? That word "racist" seems to get thrown around all the time around here. I don't think I've ever been called an anti-semite or white supremacist specifically. What other people try to label me as is irrelevant anyway, so not sure what your point is?

You seem to find other American groups of various ethnicities or other defining characteristics not even worthy of thought as you failed to answer my question - "What other whole cross sections of the US were left out of debate?" So where is the air of supremacy coming from exactly?

@Flowerwall Remember Charlottesville? Nazis running around with torches shouting "Jews will not replace us!" That happened. Fact! Trump refused to condemn it, because those Neo Nazis support him. I'm appalled by trunk not condemning that. You seem to be appalled by people like me condemning these white nationalists. Why is that? It's a rhetorical question. You need not answer it.

@barjoe Are there SOME fringe groups in US? YES. So Trump is an anti-semite with Jewish s-i-l as his right hand man? Listen I will not say that I approve of Trump's leadership tactics with regard to race relations, NO WAY! But I think his lack of statesmanship in this regard has laid bare the reality of where we are at in this nation and the exact conversations we need to be having. Issues of race are not just about race, but the whole politics that underly it. The President doesn't ultimately hold us together in this regard, we ourselves do, so really, what he says or doesn't say is irrelevant.