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Good Morning America!
As you rise, bleary eyed, on Columbus day you might like to check out these facts about the guy ultimately responsible for your being where you are.
After all, even his name is suspect!
[britannica.com].

Petter 9 Oct 12
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He offered a money prize to the first sailor to spot land. Then when one did, he claimed to have seen a dim light on the horizon the night before, and so kept the money for himself. A#####e

And spent the rest of his life arguing with everyone that America did not exist, because he thought that theory, which was becoming popular undermined his claim to have found a new way to Asia.

He was a greedy, despotic man. BUT. He was unarguably the person who initiated contact between Europe and the Americas.

@Petter

Not really. He was preceeded by many decades, if not Centuries, by the Vikings. Plus he never landed on American soil. He landed on the island of Hispaniola where he proceeded to annihilate the residents. He was the first to suggest enslaving the natives of the island., but was turned down by the church and the crown. He is just the first to have his exploits put down in ptint.

@t1nick We know all that, but Colombus was the one who was responsible for the ensuing continuous contact between the two continents. The Vikings fizzled out and their find was forgotten.

@Petter

I hear you. But I still disagree. Columbus was a part and parcel of the "Age of Exploration" in Europe. It was time that written records were assiduously kept. During the time of Vikings, written records were less a part of their culture.

I teach in the Native American community and we stopped recognizing Columbus in 1992 on the 500th Anniversary of the beginning of the European genocide in the America's. The celebration became known as 500 years of cultural survival.

@t1nick There is also some evidence that, sailors from Northern Europe, epecially fishermen, continued to visit the Grand Banks and Newfoundland, through the Middle Ages, but they kept it secret of course. And there are also some Chinese records, worth taking into account. I also think that Amerigo Vespucci should/does rightly get more credit than Columbus, since the understanding of it as a continent and its importance, is really much more important than just crashing into a reef on your way to Asia, and then totally failing to understand what had happened.

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Big questions little info

bobwjr Level 10 Oct 12, 2020
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Petter there is another theory I was taught in Sunday School in a Reform Temple. Columbus couldn't be traced to Italy, but Spain at the time of the Spanish Inquisition where Jews were being massacred and became Marrano Jews. Supposedy most of his crew were as well. Why he sailed for Spain and not Italy. I remember Cordoba and maybe Grenada had large Marrano populations. Living in Spain for years have you ever heard this?  This was actually in a textbook we used.

For some reason, your reply is not in the reply box. Must be a coding glitch.

Lets try this again. Theory is Columbus was a Marrano Jew escaping Spain with a crew full of Marranos.

@sassygirl3869 Any backup on this?

[search.yahoo.com]

[thejerusalemconnection.us]

[cnn.com]

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No longer Columbus Day. Native Sovereignty Day has replaced Columbus.

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A long-winded proclamation from the White House.

[whitehouse.gov]

Playing to his Italian and Mafioso base lol.

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