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Living in the Southern part of Oklahoma, I’m mostly surrounded by deeply religious and conservative people.
Usually I avoid engaging with people who you can tell are deeply engrained and don’t even question why, but there are people who will talk with me about politics and/or religion that I consider reasonable for the most part and I wanted to share what I’ve gathered.
The biggest elephant in the room I want to understand better, is how the religious right has embraced the current POTUS, while standing on their moral high horse.
The fact is, that they occupy a different reality than I do. I mean this very literally too. In their world, all liberals/progressives/atheists are evil and corrupt and just want to kill babies and destroy the country. Everything they see and hear, from social media posts, to news articles, to TV headlines reinforces this over and over until it’s common knowledge. Even the people who see Donald Trump as a con-man, have to reconcile the ‘R’ next to his name, and they will do mental gymnastics to justify and rationalize their vote. They will equivocate, obfuscate, and play down and point fingers and play ‘what-about-isms’ until their very reality isn’t in question anymore. Question a persons reality and their brain will do amazing irrational feats to defend itself.
The problem is that people in power have realized that INFORMATION is how you attack people, not weapons. The internet should have been the greatest communication and information tool ever conceived by human kind, but power/ hungry figured out how to weaponize it, and we may be too far gone...
I don’t know how we fix it...

Daustin9999 3 Nov 20
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When the faithful subscribe to a theology/lifestyle based in a web of contradictory elements, i.e. God is love, its no surprise they can weasel a justification for any reasoning that suits and supports thier position. They live a very black and white, yet gaseous state.

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you fix it with education and experience. those fears are based on insecurity which will be satiated by familiarity. according to maslow you bolster that security by appealing to preservation needs. this is why I believe the FDR Bill of Rights is so important. even if they don't realize it the Republicans desperately want social programs. their lives depend on it - look at poverty demographics. but they also have an inner sense of justice and feel like people must "deserve it". NOT that it is just a right. they have to learn and be taught that community works to ensure the security of ALL the community. Not just the individual. That is, in fact, the very purpose of community in the first place.

I live in Oklahoma also and I learned while running for office years ago that you CAN enlighten the voting public as a campaign, but it's not nearly as effective as sloganeering and telling people what they want to hear for votes. It takes more work and you can't compromise because that's the whole rule to observe in the first place. winning is not the end all, be all. the way you win matters also. Ends don't justify all means. The means must be just as well.

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I agree that education is an answer, but certain groups realize this and have waged a war on the scientific method (the faulty dichotomy of science versus faith), demonized higher education (liberal indoctrination), and actively discourage critical thinking (God works in mysterious ways).
They KNOW what threatens their power and education does. How do we fix education when half the country is either actively fighting against that, or is cheering on the fight?

@Daustin9999 well, first of all education doesn't just come from a classroom. it also comes from experience and their anti-intellectualism cannot stop that. as homogenization happens their idiotic tropes will slowly melt away.

second - you cannot just blame that dilemma on the right though. agnostics and atheists have a huge problem being close-minded. they keep an attachment to their ideas such that they aren't ready to learn new things that don't meet their inner dialogue. I encounter that on this particular site daily. This group has a huge problem with the hard consciousness problem. They cannot envision the dimensional issues with seeing the seer and how that subverts their insistence on certain kinds of proof. You cannot let your dogma cloud your ability to learn and move forward.

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