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“Putin has become the world’s most toxic man,” Howard W. French writes at The World Politics Review, suggesting the wave of opprobrium may be holding him back from an even-less-discriminate assault.

Some Russians share the sentiment about Putin’s war. “Whatever military ‘victory’ Mr. Putin might find acceptable in his twisted mind, Russia has already suffered a crushing moral defeat,” Russian journalist Alexey Kovalev writes for The New York Times, citing but notable protests in Russia and wondering if young soldiers knew what they were getting into. “And to a certain extent, it seems like the Russian people know it.”

As Russia adopts more brutal tactics in Ukraine—prompting comparisons to Chechnya and Syria, as Chatham House Russia expert Mathieu Boulègue writes for The Guardian—President Vladimir Putin’s international-pariah status has solidified.

“But many Russians, in fact, do not fully know what is happening in Ukraine,” CNN’s Jill Dougherty has written. “State-controlled television shows almost no reports of Russian bombing and shelling in Kyiv and other Ukrainian cities, instead it focuses on so-called Ukrainian ‘nationalists’ and ‘neo-fascists.’”

Putin is telling the Russian people that he is fighting "Nazis" in Ukraine.

mischl 8 Mar 3
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If this war does not grow and spread Putin can lie his way out of it in the end. All he has to do is say the Ukraine had weapons and was planning attacks on Russia. Therefore Russia moved in and took the weapons and neutralized the threat then, annexed the Ukraine in order to keep watch on them.

All of the bell ringing in the world in support of the Ukraine is doing nothing. I am against American troops going there to fight because we do not need WW3. Maybe we could sell cupcakes to support them, or do the Tarzan yell. Ollie Ollie Oxen Free.

Yeah, I agree...no boots. But I'm glad to see we're helping a lot. I've sent small contributions to two NGOs on the ground, and $25 directly to the Ukraine army.

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"Some parts of Poland hold German speaking people, therefore Poland is part of Germany." A. Hitler.
"Some parts of the Ukraine hold Russian speaking people, therefore the Ukraine is part of Russia." V. Putin.

No further comment from me needed.

@Matias I was though only looking at that small part of the excuse, not the bigger picture, but even so I think that the difference is trivial. Because whatever legaleez claims or justifications there may be about what belongs to who, the bottom, they both overlook the bottom line, that the only natural justice is concerned with the lands belonging to the people who live there. Which was the point that both were trying to subvert by claiming that minorities rights over wealm those of majorities. Especially, since Hitler was also looking back historically to the Gothic Knights claims in Poland.

"Danzig is a German city and wishes to belong to Germany. According to my conviction Poland was not a giving party in this solution at all but only a receiving party, because it should be beyond all doubt that Danzig will never become Polish." A. H. 1939

@Matias Putin's "history" is based on things that happened and the state of the world 1000 years ago. By that rationale, Denmark should be claiming the British Isles and Norway as "historically Danish", Germany would have a claim to Italy, and Russia would have to give half its territory to Finland and the other half to Turkey. [r12a.github.io]

Like all dictators, he only quotes the history that serves his purposes.

@Paul4747 It has been pointed out that having evaded military service by spending his whole life in the KGB, he has absolutely no military understanding from experience or training, and he is a very bad historian, so does not have a historian's perspective of warfare either. Not someone you really want commanding your armed forces.

@Fernapple Wow, more and more in common with Trump.

@Fernapple, @Matias "Putin is not a racist..." just a mysogynist and homophobe, who thinks that anyone not Russian is a member of an inferior race. He has managed to conflate nationalism and racism, just like Hitler did. And that he doesn't disavow the support of right-wing racists speaks oh so well for him, too. (That last bit was sarcasm, mind you.)

@Matias Yes but you have misunderstood. I am not saying that Hitler invaded Poland to liberate Danzig, anymore than Putin invaded Ukraine to liberate the Russian enclaves. What I am saying is that they both used the same, "liberate our people", excuse/lie in part to justify their actions.

@Matias That is true .

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Opprobrium. Great word, I had to look it up.

MizJ Level 8 Mar 3, 2022
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And fighting Nazi's using Nazi tactics.

It's one of the oldest tricks in the Authoritarian Manual: Accuse your opponent of breaking the same laws you're breaking.

@mischl Sounds like tRump and his ilk.

@JackPedigo where do you think tRUMP got it...and the Marmalade Mange kept a copy of Mein Kampf on his nightstand. I am betting he also saw John Gotti as a GOD...🤢

Apostrophes should never be used to indicate the plural.

@phoenixone1 Ya can’t compare John Gotti to Donald Trump. Gotti and others like Sammy (The Bull) Gravano would have killed their own families. Moreover Gotti eventually got what was coming to him. It still remains to be seen if Chumpy does.

@CuddyCruiser wasn't really comparing him so much as I was saying that with the Buffoon, it is a hero worship of sorts. Dumbass thinks he "owns" everyone...and judging by the how fast people have "flipped"...you KNOW he has the goods on a LOT of people in Washington...and Donny boy conducts himself like a street thug. He acts tough, but we all know he is a coward. If you look real close at the "image" he projects...its Gotti...he has spent his entire life perfecting it. Funny thing is...John would have taken him out of he had ever crossed him...The Creme Puff stayed out of that circle because he knew better.

@Toonman Thank you, fellow grammar nazi.

@mischl

Thank you, fellow grammar nazi

@mischl

Real Nazis, or the contemporary equivalent thereof, are invading Unkraine.

Let's think of something else.

@phoenixone1 I am convinced had the personality (dumb and bullied by his father) to take the 'simple' route. I once had a Criminal law professor that said many criminals get into their 'line of work' because they are too lazy to do real work. Add a toxic family life and being made to feel stupid and undeserving to the mix and you have a tRump. I wonder how Putin's upbringing was. Hitler's mother was not married and he had a troubled childhood. Being hit with gas and traumatized in WWI only made matters worse.

@Toonman thanks but when it is wrong spell checker catches it. With Nazi's it doesn't.

@JackPedigo

If you are using the possessive it's correct. If you're using it as a contraction it works. That's why spellchecker shows it as correct, because spellchecker doesn't check for CONTEXT. An apostrophe is NEVER correct for the plural, which was how you were using it.

To wit:

"Check out that Nazi's stupid excuse."--Denotes ownership, possession or belonging.

"That Nazi's fucking up his sentence."--Short for "Nazi is".

"Grammar Nazis make me look stupid."--Denotes thr plural. No apostrophe.

Only an idiot blames his errors on spellchecker.

@Toonman Thanks for the tip. Sometimes I'm sensitive to grammar and my biggie is when people say less rather than fewer.

@JackPedigo

I agree.

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