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The question of whether consciousness – seen from an evolutionary point of view - is an adaptation or a by-product cannot be answered. But one thing is obvious: Consciousness is not a gift from Mother Nature to her children, it is a curse that humans have to deal with. Much of what we call culture or civilization consists of coming to terms with this "too much" of consciousness: Religion, drugs, art, games, distraction and sublimation of all kinds... . Consciousness would long past have proved fatal for human beings if we did not do something about it. Why has humankind not long ago gone extinct during great epidemics of madness? Why do only a fairly minor number of individuals perish because they fail to endure the strain of living— because cognition gives them more than they can carry?

Well, most people learn to save themselves by artificially limiting the content of consciousness. And those who do not manage to do so have to kill themselves sooner or later, just to get rid of this excess of consciousness.

Matias 8 Apr 16
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I think it's a by-product of a wave/particle.

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I suspect it wasn’t so much of a curse in our ancestral environment. My guess is that suicide rates in the few remaining hunter/gatherer societies are nearly non-existent compared to those of modern agricultural societies.

The real “curse” was the invention of agriculture. That curse is reflected almost perfectly in Christian mythology with the story of Adam and Eve’s expulsion from the Garden of Eden (hunting and gathering) after which they were cursed by God.

The serpent was cursed to crawl on its belly. Eve was cursed with the pain of childbearing (and fear of snakes). And God cursed Adam, saying

“cursed is the ground for thy sake; in sorrow shalt thy eat of it all the days of thy life.”

and

“Therefore the LORD God sent him forth from the garden of Eden, to till the ground from whence he was taken.”

All of these curses were, as the story tells us, for the crime of choosing to eat of a tree (agriculture) which gave them the knowledge of good and evil as the gods themselves.

So the curse was not consciousness itself, but what we chose to do with that consciousness. We “chose” to leave the innocence of being natural animals in an environment that nature had provided, and set about altering our environment by understanding it well enough to manipulate it like gods.

Today, scientists call this curse evolutionary mismatch - when the environment in which a species evolved changes more rapidly than biology alone can adapt.

But, as the story goes, God (evolution) gave us a possible path of salvation from this curse. Our evolved (God given) capacity for complex culture (religion/science).

Jesus later tells us the simple antidote for the curse that has captured us:

“And ye shall know the truth, and the truth shall make you free.”

By understanding the truth of how we were made (by evolution) and how we are cursed (by evolutionary mismatch) we can be liberated from the curse of [madness due to a consciousness that is condemned forever to live in an environment it was not evolved to fit].

Consciousness is not the problem. Mismatch is the curse (and the main ingredient of all extinctions). Knowledge and understanding (wisdom/culture) become the cure.

Haphazardly engaged, culture can be a distraction, exacerbating the problem.
Engaged as a discipline, under the guidance of generational wisdom, an authentic (not fundamentalist) religious practice, coupled with a broad familiarity with current science, offers permanent relief from the curse of evolutionary mismatch.

skado Level 9 Apr 16, 2022

@Matias
Interesting thought. Yes, maybe it is a mismatch of sorts in modern society. But still, it would not be so had we not changed our environment so radically and rapidly. Consciousness would not have been any more of a mismatch than our natural craving of salt, fat and sugar had we not invented language, philosophy and science. Our consciousness would have remained as that of all other animals. It evolved in one environment and now has to exist in a radically altered one.

Studies of hunter gatherers suggest that suicide is virtually non-existent until they come in contact with civilization. Consciousness was nothing but an advantage in our ancestral environment. Only in modern civilization are humans separated from a sense of significance and meaning that would be in abundance in the natural environmental relationship. The Meaning Crisis is a modern phenomenon.

@Matias
There's not much point in getting too attached to our ideas of precisely what humans were feeling before writing was invented. There is no way to know for certain.

When I say
"Consciousness would not have been any more of a mismatch... had we not invented language, philosophy and science. Our consciousness would have remained as that of all other animals."
I don't mean to say the kind and quality of our consciousness was the same as other animals. I'm saying its relationship to mismatch was more like that of other animals than it is for modern humans today.

As with "free will", the concepts of religion and consciousness do not enjoy a scholarly consensus as to exact definitions. So the subject of the relationship between consciousness and religion before humans could record their thoughts in writing is so elusive as to hardly warrant discussion at all, let alone firm convictions.

But the subject of evolutionary mismatch is relatively simple and well-defined. Mismatch occurs when traits that evolved in one environment are subjected to a different environment in which they are not well-suited.

It is counter to everything we know about the mechanisms of evolution to think that a trait would biologically evolve to be maladaptive. Natural selection, by definition, removes maladaptive traits from the gene pool, unless they are otherwise compensated for.

And yes, we agree that advanced human brain function ( I don't know what consciousness is ) required some compensation, and that the compensation was supplied by a cultural mechanism, and that it took the form of what modern, Western humans today call "religion".

But, whatever consciousness is, it must surely have evolved before we went wandering from our African cradle of evolution. Whatever environmental changes occurred during our evolutionary development within Africa were relatively slight compared to those H.sapiens faced after the great agricultural revolution, a mere ten thousand years ago.

Before that time, whatever behaviors Western analysis deems worthy of labeling "religion" were so radically different from modern organized religion as to more nearly resemble no religion at all. The phenomenon we see today that we recognize as religion is only a very few thousand years old.

The reason hunter/gatherer animism blossomed into organized religion some six to ten thousand years ago is because that is when agriculture ushered in the greatest environmental mismatch H.sapiens had ever encountered. And that was exactly when the greatest mismatch compensation was needed.

No evolved trait is, in itself, an evolutionary mismatch. Mismatch is only between an evolved trait and a rapidly and radically altered environment.

I recently watched a video program in which a camera crew made contact with one of the few extant hunter/gatherer tribes. The interviewer was apparently hoping to find out something profound about the tribe's deepest, spiritual/philosophical musings. He asked, through the translator, "What are your deepest concerns?"

The disappointingly lean answer came back - "Meat."

"Yes, but beyond that..." the interviewer pressed.

"Water."

"Do you have any other concerns beyond those basics?"

"Honey."

Not exactly a portrait of self-conscious angst.
Survival provided all the "meaning" they could tolerate.

@PapPap
I try to base most of my beliefs on verifiable evidence. It’s not that there couldn’t be something that exists beyond what we can currently verify - surely there is. But we clearly don’t need knowledge of it in order to survive and be happy. On the other hand, believing in things that don’t exist can lead to suffering and disappointment.

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of course consciousness is an adaptation, Mother nature does not distribute gifts nor punishment. stupidity isn't over and may end us all. it almost certainly will.

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In everyday language we use the words consciousness and it opposite, unconsciousness in a variety of contexts as when someone is unconscious or under an anaesthetic so for all simple practical purposes the meanings are clear.

However, consciousness itself, whatever it may be, is a field so to speak in which we are part of the field, the content (emotions – thoughts ideas) form and take shape and are modified or remain rigid according to the value we place on them, all of which we assign a degree of importance that may or may not be relevant to our lives.

Life itself is a dynamic process and our thoughts about it have enabled us to achieve a degree of knowledge which to our primitive predecessors would appear awesome or magical.

It seems to me that language is largely referential and in that capacity by way of agreement is serves a useful purpose but it can never contain or be that which it so describes.

Perhaps over analysis leads to a philosophical cul-de-sac and the nihilism of Sartre or Camus. It is a beautiful sunny day here so I will go for a walk in the nearby woods and maybe have a beer later.

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My personal state of consciousness is regulated by what I allow to become a part of my being. In other words, I am stuck in the era of being that I want to be in. For example, my house phones are from 20 years ago and rechargeable. Not that they are really 20 years old but that type of phone was popular then. My favorite TV shows are about 20 years old. I am not into the latest of anything and I do not talk like everyone today talks. Just a few examples here. I reject the consciousness of the NOW and live my life as I want it. I also believe that most of us do this. Accept some things and throw out others.

It makes me smile when I hear someone talk about being in the NOW. My thoughts are be somewhere else other than in the NOW and show me....

@ASTRALMAX When I speak of the NOW I am not talking about a place in time. We all live in the eternal NOW. I use the term in my avoidance of every ongoing trend that continually pops up. I cannot live in that NOW.

@PapPap Most people would read my words and take the remarks to mean me personally. I am speaking of me personally. The mechanics of all this was in no way what was implied and you know that to..

@PapPap You appear to think that you have found a way that your consciousness is separate from your body. I simply do not see it that way and I will not be convinced otherwise.

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